Thursday, October 30, 2008

Why India needs Narendra Modi

Posted as "Why India needs Narendra Modi?"
by Suhel Seth
Posted online: Oct 19, 2008 at 2338 hrs
at http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-india-needs-narendra-modi-suhel.html

[excerpts]

" . . . almost all of the milk consumed in Singapore is supplied by Gujarat; or for that matter all the tomatoes that are eaten in Afghanistan are produced in Gujarat or the potatoes that Canadians gorge on are all farmed in Gujarat."

"He [Modi] then spoke about how he was very keen that Ratan Tata sets up the Nano plant in Gujarat: he told me how he had related the story of the Parsi Navsari priests to Ratan and how touched Ratan was: the story is, when the Navsari priests, (the first Parsis) landed in Gujarat, the ruler of Gujarat sent them a glass of milk, full to the brim and said, there was no place for them: the priests added some sugar to the milk and sent it back saying that they would integrate beautifully with the locals and would only add value to the state."

"There is a clear intolerance of terrorism and terrorists which is evident in the way the man [Modi] functions; now there are many cynics who call it minority-bashing but the truth of the matter is that Modi genuinely means business as far as law and order is concerned.

Read the whole thing at . . .
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-india-needs-narendra-modi-suhel.html


For background of and more about Narendra Modi, see

http://islamicdangerstill.blogspot.com/2007/12/narendra-modi-chief-minister-of-indian.html

and

http://islamicdangerstill.blogspot.com/2007/12/more-about-narendra-modi-chief-minister.html

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

"We Hindus have not passed a single night peacefully since the arrival of muslims invaders"

from http://hinduunity.yuku.com/topic/1040/t/Re-Muslim-invasion-of-India.html?page=-1


We in this country are trying to forgive and forget the wounds inflicted on our society since the days of Mohammed Bin Qasim and Mahmud ghaznavi.We are trying to think of a better future for all our people.



The perpetrators and defenders of countless bomb blasts in different parts of country thus killing thousand s of innocent people are opening old wounds and pouring salt on them.



Everybody has expressed deep concern over it.



Those responsible for killing innocent people and trying to terrorising the Indian masses especially Hindus are being given moral support by pseudo secularist politicians better called crypto terrorist and should be tried for treason.



The present Govt.is responsible for what has happened and it is the anti Hindu climate fostered by nehru,Gandhi etc.,which has divided and dispirited the national society and emboldened anti national elements.



Muslims of Hindustani peninsula are trying to set up an anti Hindu state in India.



Our leaders thinks there are votes in flattering muslims. The petro-countries and vague state Pakistan have openly declared their design and intention to convert India into DARUL ISLAM.



We Indians are so much scared of Muslims that we have thrown ourselves over their feets.The Indian political scenario where Mulayam,Amar,Lalu and Paswan etc.,the greedy ,cowards politician are playing vote bank politics and they are least concern about the motherland ie.BHARATMATA.

Last Edited By: satyamitra 10/26/08 10:44:14. Edited 1 times.

More at http://hinduunity.yuku.com/topic/1040/t/Re-Muslim-invasion-of-India.html?page=-1

Muslim invasion of India

MUSLIM INVASION OF INDIA (a must to read topic)

Very few know that while the Muslims invaded Persia in 634, they invaded Sindh in India in 638, just a gap of four years. But while Persia succumbed in seventeen years by 651, Muslims took seven hundred years to overrun India (today Sindh is a part of a Muslim country called Pakistan that was carved out of Hindu India in 1947). And even after that they could not rule India in peace. The Hindu resistance was not just fierce, but it kept increasing in ferocity till . .
. Continue reading at http://hinduunity.yuku.com/topic/1040/t/Re-Muslim-invasion-of-India.html?page=-1

Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Yehudi-Hindu Bhai Bhai (Jews and Hindus are Brothers)

Title: Yehudi-Hindu Bhai Bhai (Jews and Hindus are Brothers)
Author: Ranbir Singh(UK)
Publication: Sword of Truth
Date: Sept 3, 2003
URL: http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/readersvoice/yhbb.html
[sadly a dead link]

"Besides all this, the servants of Huram and Solomon, who had brought gold from Ophir, brought also cargoes of algum wood and precious stones . . . The like of them had never before been seen in the land of Judah. . . . The king had a fleet of ships plying to Tarshish with Hurram's men; once every three years this fleet of merchantmen came home, bringing gold and silver, ivory, apes, and monkeys." (2 Chronicles 8,9, New English Bible, The Bible Societies, 1970, pp.324-5)

The above Passage from the Old Testemant refers to 'Ophir'. This mysterious land has been identified by some scholars as Bharat itself. The Solomon in the above extract was King of Israel, of the Jews. Like the Hindus, Jews are an ancient people, and with the above passage, the relations between the two are very old indeed. The far-sighted observer might then bemoan how this has not been utilised to the mutual benefit of both.

New geo-political alliances form in the post Cold War world as one enters the new millennium. It has taken over 50 years for the Indian government to realise who its true allies are, as it gains a raj which is reflective of its majority community, in harmony with its indigenous traditions, and lack the rootlessness so common of Congress raj. In 1947, the battle of Kurukshetra was truly lost when the Kaurava Congressiya of Nehru and Indira Khan, Rajiv Khan reduced the sacred Punyabhoomi to further oblivion. Nehru's Panchsheel made Bharat an unwanted prostitute to the imperialistic designs of Communist China; entirely fitting to Jawaharal's own family background but not to Bharat. Indira and Rajiv Khan mafia crawled like rats to the USSR. Their seduction by Islam was no less, not entirely surprising as they flitted from one totalitarian ideology to another. It was against this political backdrop that they alienated what could have been Bharat's most supportive ally, Israel.

Indeed the parallel struggles for self-determination by the Jews and Hindus has been largely ignored. The domination of India' institutions and organs of education by a motley collection of Marxists, Islamists, Macaulites, pseudo-Dalits, and Christians has led not only to Hinduphobic indoctrination of anyone who aspired to be intellectual or just plain informed, but a streak of anti-Semitism in a land where it had no place.

Anti-Semitism and its sister hate of anti-Zionism has become part of India's pseudo-secular and Hinduphobic political mainstream. The pre-BJP raj tried hard to show its solidarity with the Islamic and Communist nations by a strong anti-Israel stance, in the name of anti-colonialism and Third World solidarity. Had the philosophy which manifested itself during the early days of Hindu and Indian nationalism (as readers will know the two are harmonised, Gandhism now consigned to the dung heap) triumphed this would not have been so.

Veer Savarkar, ideologue of Hindutva, saw the Jews as allies in a common struggle. In his famous Hindutva of 1923, he wrote:

"if the Zionists' dreams were realised, if Palestine became a Jewish State, it would gladden us almost as much as our Jewish friends."

Savarkar had been pro-Zionist since 1908 and remained so as Bharat's betrayers went in the opposite direction. In 1952, Savarkar looked to the Jews an example for the Hindu to emulate if they wished to be a modern nation:

"Even a tiny state like Israel has sensibly started developing fish field and sand fruits and because of that they are able to meet the needs of the countless immigrants who would have otherwise half-starved. The Jews are a brave and intelligent people. And although their State looks like a child before our great state of Bharat we must emulate its example."

In the post-1947 years Savarker denounced Comrade Nehru's refusal to recognise Israel, saying quite frankly that he feared that it would invite the very Muslim opposition which he was so eager to please. In February 1956 at the annual session of the Hindu Mahasabha in Jodhpur, he was clear that this was a suicidal course:

". . . if tomorrow there breaks out a war between Pakistan and Bharat almost all Muslims will be arrayed on the side of Pakistan in opposition to us and their enemy Israel will be our only friend. Therefore I say that Bharat should give unequivocal recognition to Israel. If we desire to safeguard the independence of Bharat we should be militarily strong."

But the fascination with Islam and Communism held by the Congress raj would never allow for such practical thinking. Indeed in the name of anti-colonialism, anti-Israel sentiment became an article of faith, supporting the PLO terrorists an act of proof of this desire to shake off the colonial shackles. Yet how did this Non-Aligned Movement benefit Bharat? Until the BJP victory India remained a nation ridiculed by others as weak, the easy punching bag of others' frustrations. Hindus the world over, self-alienated, eager to please others at how stupid and backward they regarded their cultural roots. Anti-Semitism meanwhile seeped into India's political structure. Islam from the outset has been anti-Semitic, as the Prophet's own genocide of Jewish tribes of Arabia attests. That is why Anwar Shaikh is keen to point out that such an example of extreme nationalism was not witnessed so early elsewhere. With the pro-Islamic stance of Hinduphobic groups claiming to speak for Dalits, such as that led by Rajashekhar, anti-Semitism and belief in a global Jewish plot were parcel of the ideological baggage (this has been reviewed by Koenraad Elst in Indigenous Indians from Voice of India).

The Communist influence on India's institutions was also a factor, and not just in the anti-Isreali stance. Marx, though born Jewish, was ashamed of his Jewish origins: like many latter day Hindu pseudo-intellectuals of JNU who also shout about how they are just Hindus by birth, accident, or some other unnatural freak. This factor and because many Jews joined the Communist movements in Europe and North America, as well the self-righteous stance taken by Reds in opposing Fascism, has given the opinion that Communists were anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic per se. Yet a deeper investigation would reveal that many Jewish Communist leaders in USSR were liquidated by Stalin, Trotsky being the most notorious case. The 'liberation' of Nazi Europe by Communists in 1945 brought no respite from anti-Semitism. Keen to play friends to Arab nations, who remained Islamic to the core however lax such as Syria, Egypt, Libya and Algeria, and incensed at Israel's pro-Western stance, the Warsaw Pact nations fuelled hatred of Jews under the guise of anti-Zionism. Eastern Europe was also the heir to virulent anti-Jewish hatred which remained under anti-Zionism, and almost erupted into a mass pogrom in USSR in 1953 had it not been for Stalin's death (the infamous Doctor's Plot). Communism, being born in reaction to Christian dogma, nevertheless imported its erstwhile foe's (and mother's) sinister baggage, with anti-Semitism against Jewish capitalism, Israeli imperialism, rootless Cosmopolitanism (Judaism), and Zionist world domination.

Yet Bharat's indigenous philosophy was not suppressed, which is why anti-Semitism never could gain mass acceptance. Web site articles by Sudheer Birodkar (http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/sudheer_history/judaism.htm) will attest to the fact that in a 2000 year presence in Bharat, Jews never suffered anti-Semitism at Hindu hands. Such intolerance was an anathema to the Hindu mind. In 1981, RSS Sarsanghachalak, Balasaheb Deoras made this clear when discussing the once large Jewish community of Kerela:

"In a book published by the Israeli Consulate in Bombay . . . it says that the Jews were ill-treated and subjected to all sorts of humiliations all over the world, the only example being Bharat and that during their long sojourn in Bharat, there was not even one single instance of their persecution."

The Jews left India to help build the fledgling state of Israel, not because of persecution. Israel showed a marked contrast to India in its dealings with hostile neighbours. Attacked on its very inception by the Arabs in 1948, it routed them. While in 1965 and 1971 Bharat sought peace with Pakistan following two wars instigated by the latter, Israel not only defeated the Arabs in 1967 and 1973, but also annexed territory for itself. In a very short space of time, Jewish pioneers transformed a land of desert into the most prosperous and advanced nation in the Middle East. It is the only viable democracy in that region, with a diverse society in stark contrast to the dull, monotonous, corrupt and totalitarian regimes of its Islamic neighbours.

The Jews and Hindus have been victims of the dogmatic totalitarianism which has stalked the earth for two millennia. Born from Judaism, Christianity nevertheless was opposed to it, as the Jews remained steadfast to their ancient beliefs. The conversion of the Roman Empire was a negative factor for the Jews as the now state sponsored Church began the anti-Semitism which became an integral part of its belief whilst stealing many Jewish cultural aspects. It was this hatred which could not be suppressed by the Reformation in the 1500s which led to Protestantism, the Enlightenment in the 1700s which had rationalism, nor by the emergence of Communism in the 19th century. Fascism and Nazism as the most extreme forms of nationalism naturally saw Jews as an unwanted alien presence in a secularised religion in which race and nation were the pseudo-spiritual pillars. The modern Christian rejection of overt anti-Semitism does not his the fact that it is a monstrous being of its own creation. Pastor Martin Niemoller, imprisoned by Hiler for opposing the persecution of Jews, as in many ways an exception. The Roman Catholic Church, especially in Croatia and Poland was an eager participant in Nazi atrocities. This was revived following the collapse of Communism in 1989, most evidently with Pamyat in Russia which inherits its Judeophobia from the Russian Orthodox Church itself.

The advent of Islam brought no respite for the Jews. Indeed it made things worse. Ibn Warraq (Why I am Not a Muslim, 1995) as well as Anwar Shaikh have exploded the myth of Islamic tolerance. Christianity after all was the heir to an earlier age of humanism and rationalism found in Greek philosophy. It had a possibility of reforming itself. Though often credited with laying the foundations of modern democratic traditions, Christianity did the opoosite. Western democracy is the heir of pre-Christian 'pagan' ideas, the philosophy of ancient Greece, the glory of Hellas. It was Western Fascism and Communism which were ejected from the loins of Christianity.

Abba Eban, a great authority on Jewish history and one who has yielded immense service to Israel, nevertheless continues with the myth of Jewish prosperity under Islam. Even a scholar such as Robert Wistricht (AntiSemitism, The Longest hatred, 1991), who by no means ignores Islamic Judeophobia, tries to explain it away. Bat Y'eor is one of the few who does not. Islamic history is not as clear and reliable as one would be led to believe. The Quran is full of contradictions, grammatical errors, even non-Arabic words. To rely on the Hadith is no better as contradictory accounts occur of the same event. But if one relies upon the Islamic traditions then it is clear that Islam was anti-Semitic form the outset. Muhammad's massacre of Medina's Jews could in no way set an example for Islamic tolerance. The Prophet stole Jewish ideas, and claimed them as his own, mixing them with aspects of Arab 'paganism', and pure unabashed egotism. It is amazing how this has gone unnoticed and how one is brainwashed into the myth of Islamic tolerance, as opposed to Israeli aggression. The Quran, Hadith and numerous fatwas since all show that Islamic ideology is replete with anti-Semitic manure of the vilest type.

But the Jews did not just come to Israel from the west. They were not just the idealistic pioneers from USA, the survivors of the death camps such as Treblinka, nor the victims of the sickening 1946 pogrom in Poland. Many came from Arab lands, the Sephardi Jews, where they had suffered relentless persecution. It was the coming of the French to the Maghrib and British to Egypt which gave greater political rights to these Jewish minorities, even though these nations were by no means innocent: France had its own Dreyfus Affair of 1897, endemic anti-Jewish paramiltary outfits in the 1930s, Vichy pro-Nazi collaboration, and more recently the largest post-war Fascist party; Britain's more polite society confined overt anti-Semitism to Mosley's Blackshirts and the qualgmire of the post-1945 far right. The rise of anti-French nationalism in Algeria also had anti-Semitic overtones. By 1962, most Jews had been driven from Algeria. Nasser, Egypt's strongman and apparent leader against Western colonialism, imperialism and racism, expelled all Jews from Egypt. Israel had all Yemeni Jews evacuated. Saudi Arabia to this day refuses entry to Jews. Pogroms, distinctive clothing (preceding the Star of David worn by Jews in Nazi Europe), degradation, were as much of the lives of Jews in dar'ul Islam as they were in Christian Europe. Unlike in Europe, there was no Reformation, no Enlightenment, no parallel to the French Revolution. So there was no Emancipation.

In short Jews suffered anti-Semitism in Islamic lands which was not due to any importations from the west such as that which led to the rise of modern Arab nationalism. No doubt that helped but the elements were already in existence. In no Islamic country were Jews accorded respect. When Israel was formed, they saw the opportunity of liberation and left. Some had already chosen the path of exit. Prominent UK commercial success stories of Sassoon and Saatchi, are in fact of Iraqi Jewish origin. The opposition to Israel by Arab and Muslim nations must be understood in this context. The only exception is Turkey, and that because Islam was uprooted by Ataturk in 1924. If it was merely a local issue, then why would Pakistan, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and Indonesia all be so concerned to bray Judeophobia like an ass. Pakistan and Bangladesh may wish to court Arab petrodollar, but Malaysia and Indonesia have had comparative prosperity. It is due to Islam. It is Islam which has led to the anti-Israeli sentiment of these nations, and the statement in 1998 by Mahathir Mohamed of Malaysia that the East Asian economic crisis was due to the Jews.

Therefore the crisis facing Israel must be seen in the ideological context. The problem is not Arabs or even Muslims, but Islamic ideology. Before Islam, Jews had found shelter with the Arabs. They had prospered in Medina and elsewhere. In an earlier article, Koenraad Elst had reviewed David Duke's chapter on India in his 1999 My Awakeining. Duke devotes a large part of his book on Jewish arrogance, racism, and domination of the media. He puts the blame of anti-Semitsm on the Jews themselves, for their chauvanism towards host populations. Yet this cannot explain why they lived peacefully for 2000 years in Bharat. The roots of anti-Semitism lie not with the Jews but the dogmatic ideologies which have twisted and stolen ideas from their victims: Christianty, Islam, Communism, Nazism. Even in Ethiopia, one of the earliest victims to be swallowed by Christian dogma, the Falashas (Ethiopian Jews) could not escape the shadow of persecution. The scenario of Arabia is perhaps the best example. In the pre-Islam period, Arabia, as explained by Aditi Chaturvedi, was a Hindu rashtra, which was why the Jews enjoyed the same tolerance their co-religionists in India. This changed with Muhammad. There was no evident change in Jewish thinking or habits, nor a mass change in the Arab genotype (just to please Duke, who seems obsessed with genotype, a more sophisticated word for race he utilises, in his aspirations to be taken seriously as an intellectual, and perhaps one day as a normal human being). The only quantifiable metamorphosis was ideological, that of Islamic ideology, which introduced anti-Semitism to the formerly civilised an tolerant Arabs. Israel has failed to take this into account. It has seen the opposition in a purely political context. This explains why it has fallen for the trap of trying to make peace with its Islamic neighbours in the hope that it will not be a pariah.

One can thus express surprise since the Jews have learnt much from their history and turned their misfortune into something positive. Yet this is due to the west's own fascination with Islam, as a parallel civilisation, another wonder of human creation. Jewish groups such as JDL (Jewish Defence League, www.jdl.org ) and Kach, who take their ideology from the late Rabbi Kahane, are condemned as extremist or even Nazi. One would hope that Israel would learn from its treatment at the hands of Islam as well as the west. A new nexus of Islamists and Nazis is forming, not content with what Hitler had committed. Ahmed Rami's site of Radio Islam has long been the centre of anti-Semitic propaganda, linked to the sites of white Nazis who would if true to their ideology expel or even gas this Arab 'wog'. Yet the Nazi-Islamic alliance is nothing new. Jinnah himself said that India's Muslims should act like Sudenten Germans, who were trying in the 1930s to secede from Czechoslovakia. Many ex-Nazis such as Remer found sanctuary in the Middle East. The Mufti of Jerusalem was openly supportive of Hilter. Arabic translation s of Hitler's Mein Kampf have remained popular in the Middle East, even distributed to soldiers on the eve of the 1967 Six Day War, by 'socialist' Egypt. It was that country's later president, the dark-complexioned Anwar Sadat who had been an admirer of Hitler (one wonders if Sadat ever heard of Hitler's reaction to Jesse Owen's victory in the 1936 Olympics) Saudi Arabia's King Faisal funded Holocaust denial 'research', and encouraged the UK to expel its Jews. In Kuwait and Saudi the two worst things that one can import are pictures of scantily clad women (they have to wait until they reach the Islamic heaven before enjoying those sort of sights) and an atlas with Israel on it (which is promptly scrubbed off the map). In UK Islamic groups Hizb-ut Tahrir and Omar Bakri's new outfit, Al Muhajiroun have wreaked anti-Jewish (and anti-Hindu) violence on college campuses, causing the National Union of Students to establish Campuswatch against such hate groups. So it is not surprising when one finds David Duke featured on Radio Islam's self- righteous 'anti-racist' and anti-Zionist website: (http://www.radioislam.net/duke/index.htm)

Hindus should thus recognise that Israel can be one of its few reliable allies. From Israel Bharat has much to learn. Instead of peace treaties it should have followed the Jewish state'' example in annexing the lands of the aggressor. Pakistan is eager for war again. This time it will be different if Hindus follow the Israeli example. The jawans should carry the saffron into Lahore, which is the natural capital of East Punjab and the city of Lav. How could Lahore become a city of Islam any more than Jerusalem? These are just two of the examples of Islam's theft of the cultural icons of others. If Pakistanis want to be Arabs they should be sent forth to their imaginary homeland where they can do the jobs the Arab sheikhs have reserved for them: mercenaries, prostitutes, menial workers, nannies, attendants wiping the faeces from the expensive porcelain toilets of the sheikhs. Islamic fascists see Bharat as the soft spot to propagate their irrational creed and foment violence. India tries to placate them. Israel expels them, This is what Bharat should do. If they hate Hindu Rashtra so much they are free to leave for dar'ul Islam.

Bharat can also learn in the economic sphere. Israel was pioneered via its kibbutzim system, which transformed desert into lush agricultural land. The opportunity is there for closer collaboration in both economic and political spheres. Israeli expertise can contribute into alleviating some of Bharat's obstacles to becoming an advanced nation. Military expertise will show how one survives, thrives, and even turns the tables on its aggressors. They also retain the memory of their Holocaust. We Hindus do not, to our eternal shame, even though it continues unabated in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and Assam.

From Bharat Israel can also envisage what would happen should it fall victim to complacency. It can ill afford to have an Islamic monster in the form of a Palestinian state on its borders. It can also ill afford to have its most sacred shrine usurped by Islam. Just as Babri Masjid hijacked the site of Rama Janmabhoomi, the al-Aqsa, Dome of the Rock, sits like a parasite on the Temple Mount. In Israel as in Bharat, Islam has hijacked 'pagan' shrines for its own purpose, its own imperialist stamp of victory on the sub-human 'kaffirs' Jewish as well as Hindu shrines have been victims of this Islamic colonialism.

Worse than the Iron Curtain of the Cold War, an Iron Purdah has descended from Kashmir to Karchi in the east, from Senegal to Sudan in the south, and advances elsewhere. Bharat and Israel are holding back this Purdah and Green Menace, but have thus far made inefficient use of their resources. The Jews and Hindus are two ancient nations, survivals from a more enlightened era which we are hopefully once again entering as the new millennium dawns, and dogmatic ideologies are shelved by intelligent people. They have faced common enemies, being victims of the aforementioned dogmas: the religious dogma of Christianity, the colonialist Orwellianism of Islam, the pseudo-rationalism of Marxism, and the racial fundamentalism of Nazism. Presently they face two challenges. One is from a resurgent Nazism, presented by figures such as David Duke (www.duke.org) in North America, and Le Pen and Haider in Europe. Yet the most pressing danger is Islam, which aims at the conversion or physical liquidation of Jews and Hindus, and with that Israel and Bharat.

The arrival of a Hindu led government in Bharat should be an advent in rejecting earlier myopic political actions. If any people are the true brothers of the Hindus, it is the Jews. If any nation is the true ally of Bharat it is Israel. Let all Jews and Hindus who have the vision for the new millennium work closer together to achieve the liberation of their respective peoples from the shackles of anti-human dogmas.

Israel is Yehudi Rashtra, as Bharat is Hindu Rashtra.

Refrences:
2 Chronicles 8,9, New English Bible, The Bible Societies, 1970, pp.324-5
Dhanajay Keer, Veer Savarkar, Popular Prakashan Private Ltd, 1988, Bombay, p.467.
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, RSS: A Force for Social Change, Jagarana Prakashana Kempegowda Nagar, 1981, Bangalore, pp.7-8

Also see http://islamicdangerstill.blogspot.com/2007/12/problem-of-resurgent-islamic-jihad-and.html

What is Hindu terror?

The cutting ed: Chandan Mitra

http://www.dailypioneer.com/130450/What-is-Hindu-terror.html

This way lies national disaster

"All talk of pluralism and/or multiculturalism is a threat to our commitment to the motherland. Many a patriotic leader also uses these words in order to sound sweet to Muslims and the various shades of Leftists. They do not realise the serious implications of what they say. Pluralism is not synonymous with secularism. It is a system in which two or more states coexist. Do our Governments realise how inimical are the wakfs which are exempt from all laws of the land? Or how hostile the darul qazas or Islamic courts are? They operate as a parallel to the country’s judiciary."

"Due to such practices over the past 60 years, India has now reached a stage when we must assert that India is Hindustan. Hinduism has no political content; a separation of the church from the state does not arise since there is no Hindu church. There is only a dedication to India."

This way lies national disaster
[click on the above to read entire piece]

The country’s political leadership has never tried to stop or undercut parochialism. Is it because India has never tried to distill its past and learn lessons from it?

http://www.dailypioneer.com/OPED/oped.html

Hizbul militants killed in J&K

Six Hizbul militants killed in J&K

A joint team of security forces on Monday killed six militants belonging to Hizbul Mujahideen near Methwal in Kishtwar district. This is the first major militant related operation in Jammu region after the announcement of poll schedule by the EC. According to police, a joint team of security forces on Monday killed six HM militants near village Methwal in Kishtwar district after the militants opened fire on security forces who laid the cordon.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/NATION/Nation.html

BJP slams bid to link Hindus with terrorism

BJP slams bid to link Hindus with terrorism

With its opponents trying to embarrass the party ahead of many Assembly election over Sadhvi Pragya Thakur’s arrest in connection with the Malegaon blasts, the BJP has slammed attempts to link Hindus with terrorism.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/NATION/Nation.html

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Fitzgerald: Muslims and Hindus

Gandhi was unacceptably wrong about a number of things -- his advice to Jews to mimic Indians in their campaign with the British, and to offer "passive resistance" to Hitler, and if necessary to sacrifice themselves, takes the cake. But he was also remarkably ill-informed about the Muslim threat, the deep and permanent threat, to the "wounded civilization" of India (in Naipaul's phrase -- a civilization "wounded" by the centuries of Muslim rule, its cruelty, its mass murdering). And he certainly gave Muslims the benefit of every doubt.

After Partition, Muslims attacked Hindus, and Hindus fought back. There was an exchange of populations, but many tens of millions of Muslims remained in India, while a few million Hindus remained in West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). But because of the constant discrimination against, and persecution of, Hindus (as well as of all other non-Muslims), the percentage of the population of West Pakistan that is now Hindu has dropped from 15% to 1.4%, and from 35% to less than 8%.

The much smaller population of Buddhists in Bangladesh has also been persecuted, and of course Christians in both Pakistan and Bangladesh have a terrible time. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population climbs steadily up, and no Muslims appear to be fleeing India to go to Pakistan or Bangladesh. So there continues to be population movement, but not population exchange. Hindus (and other non-Muslims) continue to be subject to Muslim terrorism and to Muslim demands, each demand more outrageous than the next, with no sign that Muslims are willing to own up to what is in the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira. Nor is there any sign that they are going to own up to the incompatibility of Islam, and what Islam inculcates, with the beliefs, or the legal and political institutions, of Hindus, or Christians, or Jews, or Buddhists, or anyone at all who is non-Muslim and refuses to yield to the Sharia and to dominance by Muslims.

Eventually, and inevitably, Hindus and others upon whom war has been made, will react. And they will not stop until they have done to Muslims what Muslims have been doing to them, and have pushed many of them into Pakistan and Bangladesh, in a mirror image of the Hindus formerly pushed out of those places during the past half-century since Partition. It is doubtful that in the rest of the world there would be much, or any, sympathy for the Muslims dealt with in this matter. Infidels need not inure themselves, need not endure forever what has become or is becoming an intolerable situation because of the ideology of Islam.

Yet on the other hand, if they are put in this position, Muslims may win worldwide sympathy, for Muslim propagandists and their non-Muslim supporters, have successfully prevented the outside world, and even many of those who may be Hindis or of Hindu origin, from fully understanding what Muslim rule did to India, beginning with the 60-70 million murdered Hindus.

It is unfortunate that thoroughly modern young Indians or Indian-Americans or Indian-English are uninterested in this matter, or have allowed themselves not to become interested. They wish to signal to the outside world how thoroughly devoid of what they see as silly, nearly troglodytic attitudes of Hindutva, that they (those thoroughly modern Hindus) cannot be accused of such. And to prove it, they will always denounce Hindu nationalists, no matter how reasonable those nationalists might be (they are not all Hitler-praising like a certain politician named Thackeray -- no relation to Becky Sharpe's creator). Some of those young Indians apparently find it unseemly to be too interested in the pre-Islamic history of India (they might start with A. L. Basham's "The Wonder that was India"). And in the United States, those of Hindu descent may, far from India, and even farther from understanding the past and present and future menace of Islam as an ideology, have Muslim friends -- and, as so many do, they may end up confusing personal charm or even kindness or even romantic entanglements with a Muslim for the sweet reasonableness of Islam itself. And this in turn can lead to a tacit whitewashing of Muslim history.

Were I an Indian-American, I would like to find out about what Muslim rule meant for India. Why did Ibn Battuta report, with such bland indifference, on the mass-murders and enslavement of whole villages of Hindus in his "Rihla"? Why was it left to Sir William Jones, and a group of Englishmen, to rediscover or help to rediscover India's Hindu past? What is the real origin of India's Muslims and of Pakistanis -- was it that Islam was simply so wonderful and attractive, or where there other reasons for conversion to Islam? How many Hindu victims were there of Islam in India? What happened to all the temples? (Hint: see the list compiled by Sita Ram Goel). What did the India's own historians write about the Muslim invaders and rulers, as for example in the 2-volume anthology edited, in the 19th century (and recently re-published) by Dowson and Elliott? Why have such historians as K. S. Lal and Sarkar not received their due in the outside world -- or even on Indian campuses? How were Sikhs treated by Muslims, including the most important early figures? What happens to Hindus (and Sikhs) in Pakistan today? In Bangladesh? In Kashmir? How much Muslim violence and terrorism takes place in India, and is never reported outside of India? What happens to Hindus in Amsterdam? In London, Manchester, Birmingham, and Bradford, at the hands of their Muslim neighbors -- anything? Nothing?

Why do Indian-Americans tend to uncritically accept Muslim propaganda, and denounce -- without having read K. S. Lal, or Sita Ram Goel, or Koenraad Elst, or Sir Jahundath Sarkar, or a hundred others who have written -- any expression of interest in, or sympathy for, Hinduism and the Hindu past as something fit for only the most reactionary supporter of Hindutva?

Why is it only the most extraordinary and self-assured observers of Indian descent, such as V. S. Naipaul, who are capable of taking Islam's measure, without any fear of being labelled "Hindutva" fanatics?

These are questions to be asked, if not in Hindu temples and Sikh gundwaras, then privately, to oneself, just before ordering on-line a few books, to start with, by K. S. Lal.

And don't stop there.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022949.php
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Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Required: a different attitude by the Indian government, and by all the Infidel governments

Hugh Fitzgerald
Jihad Watch

India, as the object of Islamic conquest, endured, over the centuries of Muslim rule and misrule, tens of millions of Hindu victims. India is a country that, at its Independence, was forced to give up large chunks of its territory on both sides to form West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), in order to accommodate Muslim demands. In Pakistan, at Partition, 15% of the population was Hindu; it is now 1.5%. In Bangladesh, at Partition, 34% of the population was non-Muslim (Hindu and Buddhist); it is now 7%. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population steadily rises.

In the Pakistan-held parts of Jammu and Kashmir, 400,000 Hindu Pandits have, by Muslim pressure, been driven out. In Indian-held Kashmir, terrorist attacks by Muslims, supported by Pakistani groups unchecked by, and at times supported by, the Pakistani army, have attempted to murder and terrorize the Hindus and drive them out. In India proper (a dangerous phrase, I admit, and I regret it, for it inadvertently concedes that Indian-held Kashmir somehow is different from "India proper" -- the same problem one has in referring to what is called the "West Bank" -- but cannot at the moment think of anything better than "India extra Kashmirem" on the old-map model of "India extra Gangem") there have been attacks, never or seldom reported in the West, for decades, of Muslims on Hindus. But every counter-attack by Hindus pushed to the limits of their endurance is given front-page coverage. We all know about the Hindu attacks on the mosque deliberately erected on the Hindu temple at Ayodha. We all know about the Hindu attacks on Muslims in Gujarat -- why, the State Department banned Narendra Modi, who ran the Gujarat government, from entering the United States.

But the provocations that prompted those attacks, the burning to death of Hindu pilgrims, is quickly glossed over in a sentence And all the other Muslim attacks, steadily, all over India -- those repeated bombs in Mumbai, killing bankers and tea-wallahs alike, set off by the Muslims who run the Bombay underworld (the head gangster sought, and found safe haven, in Pakistan), and even the attack by Muslims on the Parliament building in New Delhi --somehow none of them ever quite make any impression on the non-Indian world. That world remains so deeply uninterested in what is endured by Indians, and unsympathetic (but why?) to Hindus -- not quite to the same remarkable extent as the world has shown itself willing to accept the unendurable position that the Lesser Jihad has forced Israel into, but close.

And now here is Taslima Nasreen, born into Islam in Bangladesh, but whose intellect and moral sense and ability to question and think for herself led, inexorably, to an analysis of Islam, and a subsequent jettisoning of Islam, not unlike that of Ibn Warraq, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Ali Sina. The Community of Apostates turns out to be, for those who study their works, the community of the very best people, self-selected, of all those born into Islam. She dares to return to Bangladesh. She is harried. She is hunted. The death threats never stop. So she moves to India, powerful large India, with a population that is 87% non-Muslim. And even there what happens? She is confined to quarters. She meets no one. No one meets her. She is, in effect, a prisoner. She has been condemned to prison, instead of being given the protection of the state that will allow her to move around, to meet, to address gatherings, to publish her views in every sense.

She should be made much of. Instead, a fearful Indian government has condemned her to solitary confinement. How long can she endure such a life in India? How long will it be before she has to flee to the United States, the way Ayaan Hirsi Ali did, driven out by death threats from the country where she had been a member of that country's Parliament?

There is something wrong here. There is something that could be fixed. It requires a different attitude by the Indian government, and by all the Infidel governments. They can run, but they can't hide.

Posted by Hugh at January 5, 2008 12:06 PM

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019459.php


In India, the object of Islamic conquest that endured, over the centuries of Muslim rule and misrule, tens of millions of Hindu victims, a country that, at its Independence, was forced to give up large chunks of its territory on both sides to form West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), in order to accommodate Muslim demands. In Pakistan, at Partition, 15% of the population was Hindu; it is now 1.5%. In Bangladesh, at Partition, 34% of the population was non-Muslim (Hindu and Buddhist); it is now 7%. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population steadily rises. In the Pakistan-held parts of Jammu and Kashmir, 400,000 Hindu Pandits have, by Muslim pressure, been driven out. In Indian-held Kashmir, terrorist attacks by Muslims, supported by Pakistani groups unchecked by, and at times supported by, the Pakistani army, have attempted, to murder and terrorize the Hindus and drive them out. In India proper (a dangerous phrase, I admit, and I regret it - for it inadvertently concedes that Indian-held Kashmir somehow is different from "India proper" -- the same problem one has in referring to what is called the "West Bank" -- but cannot at the moment think of anything better than "India extra Kashmirem" on the old-map model of "India extra Gangem") there are attacks, never or seldom reported in the West, for decades, of Muslims on Hindus -- but every counter-attack, by Hindus pushed to the limits, are given front-page coverage. We all know about the Hindu attacks on the mosque deliberately erected on the Hindu temple at Ayodha; we all know about the Hindu attacks on Muslims in Gujarat (why, the State Department banned Narendra Modi, who ran the Gujarat government, from entering the United States), but about what prompted those attacks, the burning to death of Hindu pilgrims, is quickly glossed over in a sentence, and all the other Muslim attacks, steadily, all over India -- those repeatedbombs in Mumbai, killing bankers and tea-wallahs alike, set off by the Muslims who run the Bombay underworld (the head gangster sought, and found safe haven, in Pakistan), and even the attack by Muslims on the Parliament building in New Delhi --somehow never quite makes any impression on the non-Indian world, so deeply uninterested in what is endured by Indians, and unsympathetic (but why?) to Hindus, not quite to the same remarkable extent as the world has shown itself willing to accept the unendurable position that the Lesser Jihad has forced Israel into, but close.

And now here is Taslima Nasreen, born into Islam in Bangladesh, but whose intellect and moral sense and ability to question and think for herself led, inexorably, to an analysis of Islam, and a subsequent jettisoning of Islam, not unlike that of Ibn Warraq, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ali Sina. The Community of Apostates turns out to be, for those who study their works, the community of the very best people, self-selected, of all those born into Islam. She dares to return to Bangladesh. She is harried. She is hunted. The death threats never stop. So she moves to India, powerful large India, with a population that is 87% non-Muslim. And even there what happens? She is confined to quarters. She meets no one. No one meets her. She is, in effect, a prisoner. She has been condemned to prison, instead of being given the protection of the state that will allow her to move around, to meet, to address gatherings, to publish her views in every sense. She should be made much of. Instead, she has been condemned by a fearful Indian government to solitary confinement. How long can she endure such a life in India, how long before she has to flee to the United States, the way Ayaan Hirsi Ali did, driven out by death threats from the country where she had been a member of that country's Parliament?

There is something wrong here. There is something that could be fixed. It requires a different attitude by the Indian government, and by all the Infidel governments. They can run, but they can't hide.

Posted by: Hugh at January 5, 2008 6:37 AM



"There is something wrong here. There is something that could be fixed."

I'm sorry, Hugh, but you're wrong about that, and I will tell you why.

There are approximately 1.3 billion Muslims in the world at this time. The "active agents," that seek to impose their will on the rest of us, are a few percent of that number: somewhere between 50 million and 150 million persons. Not all of these are violence-inclined, but enough are to outnumber the forces of order in any non-Islamic country in the world.

As long as Muslims are admitted freely to secular nations and are treated as free and equal citizens / residents thereof, there is no way that a Taslima Nasreen can walk freely and without fear. One of them will get to her, no matter where she goes. No government anywhere can afford the expenditures of manpower and money it would take to defend her adequately; worse, adequate defensive measures would imprison her as effectively as an iron cage.

The Qur'an commands Muslims to impose themselves on the whole world, by any means expedient. Muhammad's recorded history and sayings reinforce that command. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that there are enough adequately motivated Muslims in any of the countries of Europe to reduce those countries to chaos or shari'a, as long as Islamic militancy is regarded as a law-enforcement issue...which means, as long as Islam is welcomed in the nations of the West.

This cannot be a law-enforcement issue. It must become a war issue.

Muslims as individuals might well be overwhelmingly inclined toward peace and amicable relations with non-Muslims, but Islam the ideology is inherently at war with any nation that refuses it. Barring extraordinary good fortune such as America had with the Fort Dix Six, militant Islam's "active agents" cannot be seined from their concealment until they've struck. To safeguard ourselves from them proactively, we would have to erect a totalitarianism that would make Oceania in 1984 look like a kindergarten class picnic.

We must accept that we're on a war footing, and do what a warring people must do to survive: expel our enemies from among us and confine them where they can do us no further harm. Europe's policy has been the reverse. India's policy has been inanition. America's policy...defies quantification. This cannot continue if we wish to survive as free men.

Quarantine or genocide. There are no other options.


Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at January 5, 2008 7:18 AM


Hugh,

Great post. Thanks for sharing my sentiments!!

My two cents on the reasons for this behavior in India:

India has been pampering muslims since 1920. Thanks to a very widely known figure in the West as "Gandhi" or Mahatma Gandhi. The apostle of peace bent over his back and ensured that Muslims are pampered, so that they could contribute in India's Freedom Struggle against the British.

Gandhi's historical treachery to Hindu india, should be remembered by every non-Muslim
as "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it". The west would be wise
from the follies committed by India's fore-fathers and see the state of India today.

The pampered lot lead by Muhammed Ali Jinnah pressurized on British to create a separate land for Muslims and that is "Pakistan" today.

The same Pakistan had also gotten Bangladesh as a part of their "Country". Can you imagine, two completely disjoint territories ruled as one, just because of Islam?

Well anyways, the party that Mahatma Gandhi established was known as Indian National Congress.
The same party is today at the centre ruling India ( as a part of UPA - United Progressive Alliance).

In India, since independence Muslims are pampered as they vote "en masse" as a Voting Block. Every party that needs to come to power use them as Voting blocks. Hence UPA government bends over backwards to accommodate the whims / fancies of Muslim fundamentalists.

Anybody sympathetic to Hindus are branded as "Fascists".

In its current reign, UPA is implementing "Muslims First" policy to pamper to Muslims more and more. As a part of this policy, national resources
for development are alloted to Muslims on a priority basis.

Thanks to the liberlization and the advent of 24x7 news channels in India, we atleast come to know that Nasreen is under house arrest. In the good old days of state controlled media, the whole affair would have been hushed up and Nasreen sent back to Bangladesh without anybody getting a whiff.

India is in real danger of being run over by Muslims due to "Liberal Democracy".

I am not sure how many readers on this site are aware of the true state in India.

India is the only country in the world to enact "Shariah" for Muslims as a "Personal"
governance . Muslims and Non-Muslims (Hindus, Christians and others) have different
personal laws.

That's precisely the reason why BJP (known in the west as the Hindu Fascist Party) was bent on implmenting - Uniform Civil Code. Muslim divorces
and Hindu divorces are treated separately.

1> Muslims can still use "Talaq, Talaq, Talaq" three times (over voice, email, sms ---
welcome technological advances!) and divorce their poor wives.

2> Muslim Wives divorced in India do not get alimony or support

3> Mulsims can marry four wives as per Islamic principles and legally practice polygamy,
but if a Hindu does it (legally), then he can be prosecuted under law.

4> They have special reservations in Government jobs, educational institutions and they
have their own university (Aligarh Muslim University).

I can go on and on...

That's the reason why Ms. Nasreen is being imprisoned in "Secular India".


Posted by: HinduInfidel at January 5, 2008 8:11 AM

January 5, 2008 8:11 AM