Sunday, August 31, 2008

SIMI [Students Islamic Movement of India] holds sway over intelligentsia

Review of The Pioneer article "SIMI [Students Islamic Movement of India] holds sway over intelligentsia, says probe"
by Rakesh K Singh, New Delhi

Here are a couple of direct quotes from the Rakesh K. Singh article:

"It is not without reason that regional forces like Rashtriya Janta Dal, Lok Janshakti Party and Samajwadi Party are supporting the cause of banned Students Islamic Movement of India [SIMI].

"Interrogation reports of SIMI chief Safdar Nagori and his top aides reveal that the outfit has entrenched its hold amongst the community, including within the financially sound, educationally qualified and opinion making section of the community, for carrying out subversive activities.

"Significantly, most of the political parties supporting SIMI have presence in the States where the homegrown face of terror is active through a developed network of cadres and leaders. The interrogation reports of top SIMI leadership reveal that the outfit has significantly developed its network in major States like Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, West Bengal, New Delhi, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, besides Bihar."

The article goes on to say: "SIMI activities are being coordinated and supported by well-educated and financially sound Muslims."

and further that

"The SIMI terrorists are not the typical uneducated and the superstitious Muslims and the rank comprises well educated and financially sound sections of the community who extend support to the outfit despite the knowledge that the group is banned . . . "

SIMI has been holding meetings at mosques and at the homes of well-to-do community leaders.

SIMI leaders are currently in custody of Gujarat Police for interrogation into the Ahmedabad serial blasts case.

SIMI cadres have been recruited in engineering, medical and other professional institutes.

SIMI activities are funded by donations collected from the community members as well as from contributions of former SIMI activists in the Gulf states and through the sale of goatskin offered to the mosques on Bakr-Eid.

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Also of interest is "ISI threat looms large after Mush's exit"

" . . . not sure if he [Pakistani Army Chief General Kayani] ha[s] the capability to rein in ISI and other anti-India elements."

Moreover: "The [American] Republican Party has welcomed America's new relationship with India and said that the common security concerns and shared commitment to political freedom could be the foundation for an enduring partnership between the two countries."

NOTE TO MY READERS: Unfortunately the Daily Pioneer does not keep the article "SIMI [Students Islamic Movement of India] holds sway over intelligentsia, says probe" linked to in this post available for viewing after a certain period of time.

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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Combating Jihad: Gujarat shows the way again

Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi

From Shadow Warrior
Combating Jihad: Gujarat shows the way again

"The real benefit will, however, accrue to Chief Minister Narendra Modi. He now has the trademark on combating terrorism, having established himself as the one political administrator most alive to and capable of thwarting India's domestic jihad. He is the last man standing."

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Monday, August 18, 2008

Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?

Murad A Baig

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(This post is referred to by What was the the most effective response to political Islam in Ancient India? at Islamic Danger in History)

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#17 Posted by laddu on May 27, 2008 6:07:50 pm
DM ji,The fact that even till today Tibetan Buddhism has been given state patronage points to the Indian tradition of providing facilities to Buddhism. This happened because Buddhism has by and large a completely reclusive and non-interfering political philosophy (unlike political Islam) that does not insist upon over throwing and capturing political power.The fact that now a large class of arms-bearing kshatriya became buddhist sanyasi (at an early age when they should be grahastha) weakened the internal protection mechanism of hindu society. So, Buddhism was the FIRST victim of momeen hordes because unlike dwija-dharma which insists upon a warrior group of kshatriya to protect itself Buddhism does not provide for such a mechanism. So, whenever the momeen hordes went on rampage at some buddhist monastery they just killed all of them without resistance on the same day!!On the other hand , the dwija suffered maximum casualities ONLY after the stiff resistence from the kshatriyas was broken by the momeen hordes.I hold the opinion that it was the vanquishing of the weakened group of kshatriyas that actually was responsible for the destruction of hindu civilization at the hands of momeen hordes. I must also add, that the sikh gurus realized this weakend link in hindu civilization and came up with a solution to end the weakened warriar castes ended with the sikh gurus asking every dwija to become a kshatriya (one who bears arms) to fight the momeen hordes. In my view one of the most important K i.e. the Kirpan,that the kshatriyas were supposed to carry was now to be worn by every dwija on becoming a sikh.As I view it from the eyes of a modern hindu idolator who is not apologetic about his idolatory, Sikhism was the most effective response to political Islam because it created a group of neo-kshatriyas (those who bear arms) in order to protect the sanathan dharma!!
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#18 Posted by dost_mittar on May 27, 2008 6:16:55 pm
laddu#17:"I hold the opinion that it was the vanquishing of the weakened group of kshatriyas that actually was responsible for the destruction of hindu civilization at the hands of momeen hordes."You are not the only one who thinks so. I believe that Buddhism is the best faith for an individual but not for a society - unless modified to meet the needs of the society, as has been done in east and southeast asia.

#406 Posted by Mystic
on June 5, 2008 7:50:33 am
Vivekananda and Indian Islam Gautam Kundu, Georgia Southern University “Neo-Hinduism” (or the so-called “Hindu Modernism”) involves “reinterpretation”—of the tradition, of the interrelationship of the indigenous and the foreign, and of what often has been termed as the “degree of receptivity (of India) vis-a-vis the West”, etc. Swami Vivekananda (Narendranath Dutta, 1863-1902), Sri Ramakrishna’s most well-known disciple, both at home and abroad, became an influential shaper and propagandist of neo-Hinduism, an “exemplary exponent of Hindu self-representation” during the early phase of Indian nationalism. However, for all the seeming vigor and vision with which Vivekananda sought to infuse his own brand of Hindu self-assertion, he lived and practiced a problematic and ambivalent position that neo-Hinduism occupied in colonial India and the West. While he criticized the materialism and secularism of the West, Vivekananda also admired the energy and dynamism associated with the Western sense of (among other things) national identity, and, ironically, by implication, religious nationalism: Vivekananda’s belief that India’s special gift to the world was her (Hindu) spirituality.Tapan Raychauduri has claimed that Vivekananda’s “deep regard for Islam was in a way [the] most striking expression of his faith in validity of all religions”, and that Vivekananda’s highest prayer for the “good of the Motherland was that she might manifest the twofold idea of ‘An Islamic body and a Vedantin’s heart’”. But a closer examination of Vivekananda’s writings reveal that such a “validation” of Islam and of the Muslim Indian is more apparent than real, however. His vision of a non-discriminatory future is undermined by its fatal ambivalence, and its slide into the familiar (Orientalist) binary of Indian/Hindu/Bengali “effeminacy” and the “manly/muscular virtues” of Islam (and the Muslim Other), etc. Like Tagore, but unlike Bankimchandra and Savarkar, Vivekananda is more than willing to concede that Muslims have made India their homeland through centuries, but they continue to be the Other, if not quite the “first Outsider”. Further, like Rabindranath, when Vivekananda discusses the glories of the Indian past, it is almost always the ancient Aryan past. Over nine hundred years of Islamic presence in India and its myriad contribution to the country’s “composite culture” remains unacknowledged, if not ignored. When Vivekananda does praise Islam (and Muslims), it is mostly for what he considered to be the robust vigor of its “masculinity”; the ethical and metaphysical aspects of Islam suffer a near-total erasure. Like other neo-Hindu religious cultural and religious nationalists of his time, for Vivekananda, the Muslim Indian resides “outside the fold”, as it were, of that which makes for a “true” Indian: one who possesses a life of manas, not bahubal.

#401 Posted by nkg on June 4, 2008 9:41:28 pm
Re: # 393 #393 Mystic
Muslims fought British. What special about it? Muslims had fought with Indians also. After the western floodget was opened on early 11th/12th century, India had become playground for middle eastern and central asian invaders. And that resulted in infusion of mediaval,middle eastern barbarism in major part of Indian society. When British ( and other european countries)had arrived, India was no more a civilisation.

What history should we read? Created by mediaval arab/central asian looters/destroyers and ignore Vivekananda, whom large section of civilised world respect?
He had travelled large part of India and identifed the main reason for the sorry state of present India. When he travelled europe and USA, he identified what steps to be taken to get rid of this barbarism.
His follower list conatins Nocola Tesla, Rabindranath, J C Bose etc... And for the sake of mediaval, middle eastern barbarism, we, Indians have to ignore him!! What an audacity.

Regarding 1000 years of islamic existance in India- A dog is a dog, whether you keep it in your house for 1 day or 100 days. It does not change the fact. If Brits would have stayed in India for couple of more centuries, does that make them Indians.

Regarding M K Gandhi...He deserved to die like that. No Indian is proud of his killing. He was responsible for islamic carnage in Malabar coast (Moplah) and his stupidity allowed the arab slaved to go on rampage in Calcutta and most part of Bangladesh (Great Calcutta killing, Noakhali massacre etc...). You,arab salves, may be very happy with him (he has kept one side unarmed, such that barbarians can carry out whatever way they want).
What statistics, you are using to prove that moslem % of population in West Bengal is not increasing abnormally? GOI ( NSA) is already concerned about it. Naturally, with migration of bangladeshis ( non-moslem share has dropped from 25% to now 10% in present day BD), the moslems population % should have reduced. But it has increased manyfold.

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Was There an Islamic "Genocide" of Hindus?

Dr. Koenraad Elst

"The Partition Holocaust": the term is frequently used in Hindu pamphlets concerning Islam and the birth of its modern political embodiment in the Subcontinent, the state of Pakistan. Is such language warranted, or is it a ridicule-inviting exaggeration?

To give an idea of the context of this question, we must note that the term "genocide" is used very loosely these days. One of the charges by a Spanish judge against Chilean ex-dictator Pinochet, so as to get him extradited from Great Britain in autumn 1998, was "genocide". This was his way of making Pinochet internationally accountable for having killed a few Spanish citizens: alleging a crime serious enough to overrule normal constraints based on diplomatic immunity and national sovereignty. Yet, whatever Pinochet's crimes, it is simply ridiculous to charge that he ever intended to exterminate the Spanish nation. In the current competition for victim status, all kinds of interest groups are blatantly overbidding in order to get their piece of the entitlement to attention and solidarity.

The Nazi Holocaust killed the majority of European Jewry (an estimated 5.1 million according to Raul Hilberg, 5.27 million according to the Munich-based Institut für Zeitgeschichte) and about 30% of the Jewish people worldwide. How many victim groups can say as much? The Partition pogroms killed hardly 0.3% of the Hindus, and though it annihilated the Hindu presence in all the provinces of Pakistan except for parts of Sindh and East Bengal, it did so mostly by putting the Hindus to flight (at least seven million) rather than by killing them (probably half a million). Likewise, the ethnic cleansing of a quarter million Hindus from Kashmir in 1990 followed the strategy of "killing one to expel a hundred", which is not the same thing as killing them all; in practice, about 1,500 were killed. Partition featured some local massacres of genocidal type, with the Sikhs as the most wanted victims, but in relative as well as absolute figures, this does not match the Holocaust.

Among genocides, the Holocaust was a very special case (e.g. the attempt to carry it out in secrecy is unique), and it serves no good purpose to blur that specificity by extending the term to all genocides in general. The term “Holocaust”, though first used in a genocidal sense to describe the Armenian genocide of 1915, is now in effect synonymous with the specifically Jewish experience at the hands of the Nazis in 1941-45. But does even the more general term "genocide" apply to what Hinduism suffered at the hands of Islam?

Complete genocide

"Genocide" means the intentional attempt to destroy an ethnic community, or by extension any community constituted by bonds of kinship, of common religion or ideology, of common socio-economic position, or of common race. The pure form is the complete extermination of every man, woman and child of the group. Examples include the complete extermination of the native Tasmanians and many Amerindian nations from Patagonia to Canada by European settlers in the 16th-19th century. The most notorious attempt was the Nazi "final solution of the Jewish question" in 1941-45. In April-May 1994, Hutu militias in Rwanda went about slaughtering the Tutsi minority, killing ca. 800,000, in anticipation of the conquest of their country by a Uganda-based Tutsi army. Though improvised and executed with primitive weapons, the Rwandan genocide made more victims per day than the Holocaust.

Hindus suffered such attempted extermination in East Bengal in 1971, when the Pakistani Army killed 1 to 3 million people, with Hindus as their most wanted target. This fact is strictly ignored in most writing about Hindu-Muslim relations, in spite (or rather because) of its serious implication that even the lowest estimate of the Hindu death toll in 1971 makes Hindus by far the most numerous victims of Hindu-Muslim violence in the post-colonial period. It is significant that no serious count or religion-wise breakdown of the death toll has been attempted: the Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi ruling classes all agree that this would feed Hindu grievances against Muslims.

Nandan Vyas ("Hindu Genocide in East Pakistan", Young India, January 1995) has argued convincingly that the number of Hindu victims in the 1971 genocide was approximately 2.4 million, or about 80%. In comparing the population figures for 1961 and 1971, and taking the observed natural growth rhythm into account, Vyas finds that the Hindu population has remained stable at 9.5 million when it should have increased to nearly 13 million (13.23 million if the same growth rhythm were assumed for Hindus as for Muslims). Of the missing 3.5 million people (if not more), 1.1 million can be explained: it is the number of Hindu refugees settled in India prior to the genocide. The Hindu refugees at the time of the genocide, about 8 million, all went back after the ordeal, partly because the Indian government forced them to it, partly because the new state of Bangladesh was conceived as a secular state; the trickle of Hindu refugees into India only resumed in 1974, when the first steps towards islamization of the polity were taken. This leaves 2.4 million missing Hindus to be explained. Taking into account a number of Hindu children born to refugees in India rather than in Bangladesh, and a possible settlement of 1971 refugees in India, it is fair to estimate the disappeared Hindus at about 2 million.

While India-watchers wax indignant about communal riots in India killing up to 20,000 people since 1948, allegedly in a proportion of three Muslims to one Hindu, the best-kept secret of the post-Independence Hindu-Muslim conflict is that in the subcontinent as a whole, the overwhelming majority of the victims have been Hindus. Even apart from the 1971 genocide, "ordinary" pogroms in East Pakistan in 1950 alone killed more Hindus than the total number of riot victims in India since 1948.

Selective genocide

A second, less extreme type of genocide consists in killing a sufficient number who form the backbone of the group's collective identity, and assimilating the leaderless masses into the dominant community. This has been the Chinese policy in Tibet, killing over a million Tibetans while assimilating the survivors into Chinese culture by flooding their country with Chinese settlers. It was also Stalin's policy in eastern Poland and the Baltic states after they fell into his hands under the 1939 Hitler-Stalin Pact, exemplified by the massacre of thousands of Polish army officers in Katyn. Stalin's policies combining murder of the elites, deportation of entire ethnic groups and ruthless oppression of the survivors was prefigured in antiquity by the Assyrians, whose deportation of the ten northern (now "lost") tribes of Israel is attested in the Bible.

During the Islamic conquests in India, it was a typical policy to single out the Brahmins for slaughter, after the Hindu warrior class had been bled on the battlefield. Even the Portuguese in Malabar and Goa followed this policy in the 16th century, as can be deduced from Hindu-Portuguese treaty clauses prohibiting the Portuguese from killing Brahmins.

In antiquity, such partial genocide typically targeted the men for slaughter and the women and children for slavery or concubinage. Thus, in 416 BCE, the Athenians were angered at the Melians' reluctance to join the war against Sparta, and to set an example for other client states, Athens had Melos repopulated with Athenian colonists after killing its men and enslaving its women. Another example would be the slaughter of the Jews of Medina by Mohammed in 626 CE: after expelling two Jewish tribes, the third one, the Banu Quraiza, were exterminated: all the ca. 700 men were beheaded, while the women and children were sold into slavery, with the Prophet keeping the most beautiful woman as his concubine (she refused to marry him).

Hindus too experienced this treatment at the hands of Islamic conquerors, e.g. when Mohammed bin Qasim conquered the lower Indus basin in 712 CE. Thus, in Multan, according to the Chach-Nama, "six thousand warriors were put to death, and all their relations and dependents were taken as slaves". This is why Rajput women committed mass suicide to save their honour in the face of the imminent entry of victorious Muslim armies, e.g. 8,000 women immolated themselves during Akbar's capture of Chittorgarh in 1568 (where this most enlightened ruler also killed 30,000 non-combatants). During the Partition pogroms and the East Bengali genocide, mass rape of Hindu women after the slaughter of their fathers and husbands was a frequent event.

At this point, however, we should not overlook a puzzling episode in Hindu legend which describes a similar behaviour by a Hindu conqueror: Parashurama, deified as the 6th incarnation of Vishnu, killed all the adult male Kshatriyas for several generations, until only women were left, and then had Brahmins father a new generation upon them. Just a story, or reference to a historic genocide?

Genocide in the Bible

For full-blooded genocide, however, the book to consult is the Bible, which describes cases of both partial and complete genocide. The first modest attempt was the killing by Jacob's sons of all the males in the Canaanite tribe of Shekhem, the fiancé of their own sister Dina. The motive was pride of pedigree: having immigrated from the civilizational centre of Ur in Mesopotamia, Abraham's tribe refused all intermarriage with the native people of Canaan (thus, Rebecca favoured Jacob over Esau because Jacob married his nieces while Esau married local women).

Full-scale genocide was ordered by God, and executed by his faithful, during the conquest of Canaan by Moses and Joshua. In the defeated cities outside the Promised Land, they had to kill all the men but keep the women as slaves or concubines. Inside the Promised Land, by contrast, the conquerors were ordered to kill every single man, woman and child. All the Canaanites and Amalekites were killed. Here, the stated reason was that God wanted to prevent the coexistence of His people with Pagans, which would result in religious syncretism and the restoration of polytheism.

As we only have a literary record of this genocide, liberal theologians uncomfortable with a genocidal God have argued that this Canaanite genocide was only fiction. To be sure, genocide fiction exists, e.g. the Biblical story that the Egyptians had all newborn male Israelites killed is inconsistent with all other data in the Biblical narrative itself (as well as unattested in the numerous and detailed Egyptian inscriptions), and apparently only served to underpin the story of Moses' arrival in the Pharaoh's court in a basket on the river, a story modelled on the then-popular life story of Sargon of Akkad. Yet, the narrative of the conquest of Canaan is full of military detail uncommon in fiction; unlike other parts of the Bible, it is almost without any miracles, factual through and through.

And even if we suppose that the story is fictional, what would it say about the editors that they attributed genocidal intentions and injunctions to their God? If He was non-genocidal and good in reality, why turn him into a genocidal and prima facie evil Being? On balance, it is slightly more comforting to accept that the Bible editors described a genocide because they wanted to be truthful and relate real events. After all, the great and outstanding thing about the Bible narrative is its realism, its refusal to idealize its heroes. We get to see Jacob deceiving Isaac and Esau, then Laban deceiving Jacob; David's heroism and ingenuity in battle, but also his treachery in making Bathseba his own, and later his descent into senility; Salomon's palace intrigues in the war of succession along with his pearls of wisdom. Against that background, it would be inconsistent to censor the Canaanite genocide as merely a fictional interpolation.

Indirect genocide

A third type of genocide consists in preventing procreation among a targeted population. Till recently, it was US policy to promote sterilization among Native American women, even applying it secretly during postnatal care or other operations. The Tibetans too have been subjected to this treatment. In the Muslim world, male slaves were often castrated, which partly explains why Iraq has no Black population even though it once had hundreds of thousands of Black slaves. The practice also existed in India on a smaller scale, though the much-maligned Moghul emperor Aurangzeb tried to put an end to it, mainly because eunuchs brought endless corruption in the court. The hijra community is a left-over of this Islamic institution (in ancient India, harems were tended by old men or naturally napunsak/impotent men, tested by having to spend the night with a prostitute without showing signs of virile excitement).

A fourth type of genocide is when mass killing takes place unintentionally, as collateral damage of foolish policies, e.g. Chairman Mao's Great Leap Forward inducing the greatest man-made mass starvation killing 20 million or more, or the British war requisitions causing the Bengal famine of 1943 killing some 3 million; or as collateral damage of other forms of oppression. Unlike the deliberate genocide of Native Americans in parts of the USA or Argentina, the death of millions of Natives in Central America after the first Spanish conquests was at least partly the unintended side-effect of the hardships of forced labour and the contact with new diseases brought by the Europeans. In contrast with Nazi and Soviet work camps, where forced labour had the dual purpose of economic profit and a slow but sure death of the inmates, there is no evidence that the Spanish wanted their Native labourers to die. After all, their replacement with African slaves required a large extra investment.

The Atlantic slave trade itself caused mass death among the transported slaves, just as in the already long-standing Arab slave trade, but it is obvious that purely for the sake of profit, the slave-traders preferred as many slaves as possible to arrive at the slave markets alive. Likewise, the Christian c.q. Islamic contempt for Pagans made them rather careless with the lives of Native Americans, Africans or Hindus, so that millions of them were killed, and yet this was not deliberate genocide. Of course they wanted to annihilate Pagan religions like Hinduism, but in principle, the missionary religions wished to convert the unbelievers, and preferred not to kill them unless this was necessary for establishing the power of the True Faith.

That is why the mass killing of Hindus by Muslims rarely took place in peacetime, but typically in the fervour immediately following military victories, e.g. the fall of the metropolis of Vijayanagar in 1565 was "celebrated" with a general massacre and arson. Once Muslim power was established, Muslim rulers sought to exploit and humiliate rather than kill the Hindus, and discourage rebellion by making some sort of compromise. Not that peacetime was all that peaceful, for as Fernand Braudel wrote in A History of Civilizations (Penguin 1988/1963, p.232-236), Islamic rule in India as a "colonial experiment" was "extremely violent", and "the Muslims could not rule the country except by systematic terror. Cruelty was the norm -- burnings, summary executions, crucifixions or impalements, inventive tortures. Hindu temples were destroyed to make way for mosques. On occasion there were forced conversions. If ever there were an uprising, it was instantly and savagely repressed: houses were burned, the countryside was laid waste, men were slaughtered and women were taken as slaves."

Though all these small acts of terror added up to a death toll of genocidal proportions, no organized genocide of the Holocaust type took place. One constraint on Muslim zeal for Holy War was the endemic inter-Muslim warfare and intrigue (no history of a royal house was bloodier than that of the Delhi Sultanate 1206-1525), another the prevalence of the Hanifite school of Islamic law in India. This is the only one among the four law schools in Sunni Islam which allows Pagans to subsist as zimmis, dis-empowered third-class citizens paying a special tax for the favour of being tolerated; the other three schools of jurisprudence ruled that Pagans, as opposed to Christians and Jews, had to be given a choice between Islam and death.

Staggering numbers also died as collateral damage of the deliberate impoverishment by Sultans like Alauddin Khilji and Jahangir. As Braudel put it: "The levies it had to pay were so crushing that one catastrophic harvest was enough to unleash famines and epidemics capable of killing a million people at a time. Appalling poverty was the constant counterpart of the conquerors' opulence."

Genocide by any other name

In some cases, terminological purists object to mass murder being described as "genocide", viz. when it targets groups defined by other criteria than ethnicity. Stalin's "genocide" through organized famine in Ukraine killed some 7 million people (lowest estimate is 4 million) in 1931-33, the largest-ever deliberate mass murder in peacetime, but its victims were targeted because of their economic and political positions, not because of their nationhood. Though it makes no difference to the victims, this was not strictly genocide or "nation murder", but "class murder". Likewise, the killing of perhaps two million Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge was not an attempt to destroy the Cambodian nation; it was rather an attempt to "purify" the nation of its bourgeois class.

The killing of large groups of ideological dissenters is a constant in the history of the monotheistic faiths, of which Marxism has been termed a modern offshoot, starting with the killing of some polytheistic priests by Pharaoh Akhenaton and, shortly after, the treacherous killing of 3,000 worshippers of the Golden Calf by Moses (they had been encouraged to come out in the open by Moses' brother Aaron, not unlike Chairman Mao's "hundred flowers" campaign which encouraged dissenters to speak freely, all the better to eliminate them later). Mass killing accompanied the christianization of Saxony by Charlemagne (ca. 800 CE) and of East Prussia by the Teutonic Knights (13th century). In 1209-29, French Catholics massacred the heretical Cathars. Wars between Muslims and Christians, and between Catholics and Protestants, killed millions both in deliberate massacres and as collateral damage, e.g. seven million Germans in 1618-48. Though the Turkish government which ordered the killing of a million Armenians in 1915 was motivated by a mixture of purely military, secular-nationalistic and Islamic considerations, the fervour with which the local Turks and Kurds participated in the slaughter was clearly due to their Islamic conditioning of hatred against non-Muslims.

This ideological killing could be distinguished from genocide in the strict sense, because ethnicity was not the reason for the slaughter. While this caution may complicate matters for the Ukrainians or Cambodians, it does not apply to the case of Hinduism: like the Jews, the Hindus have historically been both a religion and a nation (or at least, casteists might argue, a conglomerate of nations). Attempts to kill all Hindus of a given region may legitimately be termed genocide.

For its sheer magnitude in scope and death toll, coupled with its occasional (though not continuous) intention to exterminate entire Hindu communities, the Islamic campaign against Hinduism, which was never fully called off since the first naval invasion in 636 CE, can without exaggeration be termed genocide. To quote Will Durant's famous line: "The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." (Story of Civilization, vol.1, Our Oriental Heritage, New York 1972, p.459)

Hinduism's losses

There is no official estimate of the total death toll of Hindus at the hands of Islam. A first glance at important testimonies by Muslim chroniclers suggests that, over 13 centuries and a territory as vast as the Subcontinent, Muslim Holy Warriors easily killed more Hindus than the 6 million of the Holocaust. Ferishtha lists several occasions when the Bahmani sultans in central India (1347-1528) killed a hundred thousand Hindus, which they set as a minimum goal whenever they felt like "punishing" the Hindus; and they were only a third-rank provincial dynasty. The biggest slaughters took place during the raids of Mahmud Ghaznavi (ca. 1000 CE); during the actual conquest of North India by Mohammed Ghori and his lieutenants (1192 ff.); and under the Delhi Sultanate (1206-1526). The Moghuls (1526-1857), even Babar and Aurangzeb, were fairly restrained tyrants by comparison. Prof. K.S. Lal once estimated that the Indian population declined by 50 million under the Sultanate, but that would be hard to substantiate; research into the magnitude of the damage Islam did to India is yet to start in right earnest.

Note that attempts are made to deny this history. In Indian schoolbooks and the media, an idyllic picture of Hindu-Muslim harmony in the pre-British period is propagated in outright contradiction with the testimony of the primary sources. Like Holocaust denial, this propaganda can be called negationism. The really daring negationists don't just deny the crimes against Hindus, they invert the picture and blame the Hindus themselves. Thus, it is routinely alleged that Hindus persecuted and destroyed Buddhism; in reality, Buddhist monasteries and universities flourished under Hindu rule, but their thousands of monks were killed by Ghori and his lieutenants.

Apart from actual killing, millions of Hindus disappeared by way of enslavement. After every conquest by a Muslim invader, slave markets in Bagdad and Samarkand were flooded with Hindus. Slaves were likely to die of hardship, e.g. the mountain range Hindu Koh, "Indian mountain", was renamed Hindu Kush, "Hindu-killer", when one cold night in the reign of Timur Lenk (1398-99), a hundred thousand Hindu slaves died there while on transport to Central Asia. Though Timur conquered Delhi from another Muslim ruler, he recorded in his journal that he made sure his pillaging soldiers spared the Muslim quarter, while in the Hindu areas, they took "twenty slaves each". Hindu slaves were converted to Islam, and when their descendants gained their freedom, they swelled the numbers of the Muslim community. It is a cruel twist of history that the Muslims who forced Partition on India were partly the progeny of Hindus enslaved by Islam.


The Hindu notion of Karma has come under fire from Christian and secularist polemicists as part of the current backlash against New Age thinking. Allegedly, the doctrine of Karma implies that the victims of the Holocaust and other massacres had deserved their fate. A naive understanding of Karma, divorced from its Hindu context, could indeed lead to such ideas. Worse, it could be said that the Jews as a nation had incurred genocidal karma by the genocide which their ancestors committed on the Canaanites. Likewise, it could be argued that the Native Americans had it coming: recent research (by Walter Neves from Brazil as well as by US scientists) has shown that in ca. 8000 BC, the Mongoloid Native American populations replaced an earlier American population closely resembling the Australian Aborigines -- the first American genocide?

More generally, if Karma explains suffering and "apparent" injustice as a profound form of justice, a way of reaping the karmic rewards of one's own actions, are we not perversely justifying every injustice? These questions should not be taken lightly. However, the Hindu understanding of reincarnation militates against the doctrine of genocidal "group karma" outlined above. An individual can incarnate in any community, even in other species, and need not be reborn among his own progeny. If Canaanites killed by the Israelites have indeed reincarnated, some may have been Nazi camp guards and others Jewish Holocaust victims. There is no reason to assume that the members of today's victim group are the reincarnated souls of the bullies of yesteryear, returning to suffer their due punishment. That is the difference between karma and genetics: karma is taken along by the individual soul, not passed on in the family line.

More fundamentally, we should outgrow this childish (and in this case, downright embarrassing) view of karma as a matter of reward and punishment. Does the killer of a million people return a million times as a murder victim to suffer the full measure of his deserved punishment? Rather, karma is a law of conservation: you are reborn with the basic pattern of desires and conditionings which characterized you when you died last time around. The concrete experiences and actions which shaped that pattern, however, are history: they only survive insofar as they have shaped your psychic karma pattern, not as a precise account of merits and demerits to be paid off by corresponding amounts of suffering and pleasure.

One lesson to be learned from genocide history pertains to Karma, the law of cause and effect, in a more down-to-earth sense: suffering genocide is the karmic reward of weakness. That is one conclusion which the Jews have drawn from their genocide experience: they created a modern and militarily strong state. Even more importantly, they helped foster an awareness of the history of their persecution among their former persecutors, the Christians, which makes it unlikely that Christians will target them again. In this respect, the Hindus have so far failed completely. With numerous Holocaust memorials already functioning, one more memorial is being built in Berlin by the heirs of the perpetrators of the Holocaust; but there is not even one memorial to the Hindu genocide, because even the victim community doesn't bother, let alone the perpetrators.

This different treatment of the past has implications for the future. Thus, Israel's nuclear programme is accepted as a matter of course, justified by the country's genuine security concerns; but when India, which has equally legitimate security concerns, conducted nuclear tests, it provoked American sanctions. If the world ignores Hindu security concerns, one of the reasons is that Hindus have never bothered to tell the world how many Hindus have been killed already.


What should Hindus say to Muslims when they consider the record of Islam in Hindu lands? It is first of all very important not to allot guilt wrongly. Notions of collective or hereditary guilt should be avoided. Today's Muslims cannot help it that other Muslims did certain things in 712 or 1565 or 1971. One thing they can do, however, is to critically reread their scripture to discern the doctrinal factors of Muslim violence against Hindus and Hinduism. Of course, even without scriptural injunction, people get violent and wage wars; if Mahmud Ghaznavi hadn't come, some of the people he killed would have died in other, non-religious conflicts. But the basic Quranic doctrine of hatred against the unbelievers has also encouraged many good-natured and pious people to take up the sword against Hindus and other Pagans, not because they couldn't control their aggressive instincts, but because they had been told that killing unbelievers was a meritorious act. Good people have perpetrated evil because religious authorities had depicted it as good.

This is material for a no-nonsense dialogue between Hindus and Muslims. But before Hindus address Muslims about this, it is imperative that they inform themselves about this painful history. Apart from unreflected grievances, Hindus have so far not developed a serious critique of Islam's doctrine and historical record. Often practising very sentimental, un-philosophical varieties of their own religion, most Hindus have very sketchy and distorted images of rival religions. Thus, they say that Mohammed was an Avatar of Vishnu, and then think that they have cleverly solved the Hindu-Muslim conflict by flattering the Prophet (in fact, it is an insult to basic Muslim beliefs, which reject divine incarnation, apart from indirectly associating the Prophet with Vishnu's incarnation as a pig). Instead of the silly sop stories which pass as conducive to secularism, Hindus should acquaint themselves with real history and real religious doctrines.

Another thing which we should not forget is that Islam is ultimately rooted in human nature. We need not believe the Muslim claim that the Quran is of divine origin; but then it is not of diabolical origin either, it is a human document. The Quran is in all respects the product of a 7th-century Arab businessman vaguely acquainted with Judeo-Christian notions of monotheism and prophetism, and the good and evil elements in it are very human. Even its negative elements appealed to human instincts, e.g. when Mohammed promised a share in the booty of the caravans he robbed, numerous Arab Pagans took the bait and joined him. The undesirable elements in Islamic doctrine stem from human nature, and can in essence be found elsewhere as well. Keeping that in mind, it should be possible to make a fair evaluation of Islam's career in India on the basis of factual history.

Non-Muslim Minorities in Bangladesh: Victim of Bloody Religious Persecution

by Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari

30 May, 2008

At last the Department of State of the Government of USA has admitted through a circular issued on September 14, 2007, that the religious minorities, e.g. the Christians, Buddhists and the Hindus, are being persecuted brutally in Bangladesh by the Muslims. According to a press report appeared in the 17th September edition of the Kolkata based Bengali daily Bartaman, the circular says that the entire non-Muslim population, belonging to religious communities of Hinduism, Buddhism etc are victims of violent religious discrimination and torture by the Muslims, the majority religious group. The circular also says that, though Dhaka speaks of religious tolerance and freedom of religion, the attack on religious minorities has recently assumed a extremely savage and fierce. These unfortunate people are targeted for all kinds brutal and barbaric atrocities.

The report says that, as a result of this inhuman religious discrimination, minorities are losing their lives and properties. After the formation of independent Bangladesh in 1971, the Government grabbed Hindu land with the help of the so called “Vested Property Act”. Though the said black Act was repealed later on, the minorities did not get back their land snatched away by the Government. By a verdict in 2001, the Bangladeshi Supreme Court had directed the government to return the land, grabbed with the help of the said black Act, to the real owner. In spite of that, few Hindus could get back their land. According to a Professor of the University of Dhaka, nearly 2 million Hindu families have, so far, lost about 40,000 acres of agricultural fertile land. Many are convinced that this is only a tiny tip of an iceberg. In fact, land grabbing is a enshrined policy of jihad against the kafirs as ordained by Allah in Koran. Prophet Mohammad had taught this lesson in his life time by driving away the Jews of Medina, belonging to the Beni Nazir and Beni Kanuika clan and slaughtering the Jews of Beni Koreiza en-masse and acquiring their land and property.

It is difficult for an ordinary individual to guess the social condition of non-Muslim kafirs in an Islamic State. Koran does not consider these kafirs as human beings. Allah has condemned them as godless beasts and has empowered the Muslims to heap any kind of atrocity and torture on them. Not only that, he is alluring such oppressors of rewards in the Paradise. So, an Islamic court in an Islamic Country does not consider such atrocities even a crime at all. And the reality is that, in such a country, judiciary is heavily influenced by the religion of Islam and cannot play neutral in giving verdicts.

That is why the US circular has said that in Bangladesh, the government and its machineries are heavily influenced by religion and hence they cannot do much to stop all such religious discriminations. Not to speak of Hindus and Buddhists, even the Ahmadiyas, a sect of Islam, have declared non-Muslims and turning victims of similar religious discriminations.

The author is a Professor in the Department of Applied Physics, University of Calcutta

Date: Friday May 30, 2008
Time: 10:54:44 -0700

Muslims love to dominate but hate being dominated. Long live Israel


Name: Pixi
Date: Friday May 30, 2008
Time: 18:04:06 -0700

Does anybody else remember late lamented Beatle, George Harrison's concert for Bangladesh during the early 70's after the invasion , rape and pillage by the Muslim West Pakistani's. Not a harsh word by George or anyone else involved in this typical celebrity ego trip of the wonderful religion of peace, Islam. George later went on to finance everyone's favourite cult movie, The Life of Brien. Let us all hope that if there is a true and living God somewhere poor George is having some explaining to do.


Name: Ananda
Date: Friday May 30, 2008
Time: 19:28:05 -0700

I know Bangladesh, one of the worst countries on Earth. And it is rapidly going to hell, where all of us want it to go. Delhi and Kolkata are filled with sweepers and sewage cleaners from Bangladeshi "Refugees" with Hindu names. We know they are Muslims, but tolerate them because no one will work at their wages. That is a very big mistake. It is like feeding Cobras and we will regret it for sure.


Name: vbv
Date: Friday May 30, 2008
Time: 21:06:59 -0700

Islam is a filthy cult. Some of my comments were displayed becuase it spoke the TRUTH about islam , its mad criminal founder and its madder followers. Situation in Pakistan and Bangladesh warrents such comments , let alone other deranged islam countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran ,Somalia ,Egypt ,etc.Pakistan and Bangladesh were all a part of India and their ancestors were all hindus/budhists/jains and now see what islam has done to them - turned them into 'beasts' ,zombies bitten by the rabbid cult of 'islam' that they have forgotten the civilisation and culture of their ancestors to become slaves of Arabic savagery and Barbarism. These muslims are like bitten by the rabid dog that they are blind to reason , good sense and decency! Pakistan and Bangladesh are examples of what an evil cult can do to otherwise intelligent and sensible people!


Name: israel and its pig jews r the root of islam down with judeo christianity islam,jews christians muslims need to be rescued from this blood thirsty fake religion
Date: Friday May 30, 2008
Time: 23:35:39 -0700

israel and its pig jews r the root of islam down with judeo christianity islam,jews christians muslims need to be rescued from this blood thirsty fake religion,which is destroying mankind....jews make false claim they r superior to all others bcoz they r chosen people of imaginary desert arab deity jehova/allah,and christ goes 1 step ahead and makes false claim and says he is the only way to salvation and mulsims the followers of jews/christians make more false claims that only their fake-imaginary deity/allah is to be believer s and muhamed is the only and last guy to get messages,so it point to the fact the the disease of islam is cuased by the irus of judaism,and its duty of world to rescue the jews christians muslims from this fake superiority cult else nuke world war 3 is coming.WAKE UP FALSEHOOD BELIEVER JEWS CHRISTIANS MULSIM,SEE THE TRUTH AND SAVE YRSELF AND HUMANITY FROM YR FAKE BLOOD THIRSTY DEITY JEHOVA/ALLAH AND SAVE WORLD FROM WORLD WAR 3 NUKE WAR.


Name: India is bleeding..Psychofnt and Psuedo secular leaders must be hanged for this.
Date: Saturday May 31, 2008
Time: 02:38:15 -0700

India is bleeding..Psychofnt and Psuedo secular leaders must be hanged for this.Chemchagiri newspaper of india(Times) which is agent of foreign culture and islamists recently wrote an editorial article in favour of bangladeshi infiltrators of Jaipur saying that they should not be sent back.It says they are monorities and sending them back may evoke voilence.Means india should suffer from bombings and security threats besides loosing our jobs and resources.Can any patriotic News papper nay where in the world say like this.They are basterds who are born to bitchs fucked by islamists and act against india and write in favour of infiltrators from bangladesh and pakistan for news paper business.There is big discussion in south india about the attitude of That banana News paper(times)


Name: Philip Saenz
Date: Sunday June 01, 2008
Time: 05:57:11 -0700

Since the Muslim Qur'an teaches that Christians and Jews are "pigs and apes," and since it teaches all sorts of brutalities against Christians and Jews, why should we not refer to the Qur'an as a filthy and brutal book? From now on, I will refer to the filthy, and brutal Qur'an as the filthy, brutal Qur'an. Thank you.


Name: letholdus
Date: Sunday June 01, 2008
Time: 12:04:07 -0700

The only way to end this and save the west is to kill every last muslim on the planet. We can do this today or tomorrow but it will have to be done. Our leaders are governed by their adolescent desire to be "popular". Liberty always brings out the best in mankind but we must have the courage to defend it when it is under assault. It is time to replace the cowards who pretend to be our leaders.


Name: DH
Date: Monday June 02, 2008
Time: 08:10:35 -0700

The Serbs of Bosnia and Kosovo knew what would befall them if they meekly accepted the west's plan for them of becoming minorities in Muslim majority states. They had had 500 yrs under the bastards after all.So they got theirs in first and were subjected to one of the most vicious demonization campaigns in history by our wester "Free Press" who are only ever interested in situations where Muslims can be presented as poor wittle innocent victims!


Name: Jagmohan Singh Khurmi
Date: Tuesday June 03, 2008
Time: 14:14:38 -0700

Some people have tried to assert that the anti-hindu genocides in Bangladesh are result of Babri Masjid demolation. This is not true. At most Babri can be called an excuse, nothing more - far intense persection have occured there ( for instance in 1971 ) when no Babri was demolished ! No. They are being killed because they are hindus


Name: Jagmohan Singh Khurmi
Date: Tuesday June 03, 2008
Time: 14:19:46 -0700

Bangladeshis who want to settle in India should first convert to hinduism


Name: Aloh
Date: Wednesday June 04, 2008
Time: 06:39:05 -0700



Name: Alohuakbarbarian
Date: Wednesday June 04, 2008
Time: 07:10:11 -0700

Hey you all the atheists and western journalists who are dumb and foolish enough to under estimate ISLAM, welcome to hellist islam world, and we will serve you with your own internal organs and chopped head hahahahaha.... Please mock other religions but not ours, because we are friendly to you after you convert to ISLAM or you know hahahah... Please you fool dumb head atheists come to your mama MO...


Name: Devi,Madhurai.
Date: Wednesday June 04, 2008
Time: 18:11:54 -0700

All totalitarian isms have died a natural death, but after taking lots of lives. Nazim, Communism and of course the search light is on Islam/ism. Islam survived because it was an ism coated with religion. So whenever somebody attacks them "Freedom of religion, racism, minority oppression, human rights" comes to suface. There should be UN for Kufrs to dictate new meanings for religion, human rights to fight physically and psychologically these backward countries. Internet is playing a great role, but is largely unorganised.


Date: Thursday June 05, 2008
Time: 13:29:23 -0700

Cow Dung worship I assure you read that title right, this is exactly what the ladies of the house in DH’s community do the morning after Diwali to ensure wealth and prosperity in the household for the year to come. Since I had no idea how things worked I let my sister in law do the preparation, which actually meant using fresh cow dung to draw a symbolic representation of a village complete with 3D little cow dung people (all this made with bare hands and on the ground in the court yard). I myself took the less smelly job of putting various types of lentils and grains in designated area on the pattern to mimic granaries and mangers. We then went back to the kitchen to make little birds out of rice floor dough for the female only ritual. Once MIL was ready we headed back outside, lit oil lamps in the dung village, and had our feet painted with some magenta tainted water and proceed to bless the village with the usual water sprinkling, grain throwing and red powder applying all the various elements and then conclude by eating one of the rice flour birds each before call it quit and head to the kitchen for breakfast. While the whole ritual may sound gross (after all this is cow dung we are talking about). What fascinates me is how Hinduism has remained an earthy religion close to its people and the farming roots of India, with all the rural symbols and wish of prosperity linked to grain, food and by default wealth. And somehow it is not so odd that the Goddess of wealth is a woman, and that the rituals closely associated to fertile matters are conducted by the women of the household using earth symbols, which are by default symbols of life and fertility as well (the men have another ritual the next day involving fire). The rest of the day is generally spent lazing around as everything is anyway closed. That part was actually tougher on me than being around smelly dung and a swarm of flies.


Date: Sunday June 08, 2008
Time: 01:59:38 -0700

Those whom you call cow dung worshippers have scriptures which are far better than the quran. Their scripture calls for tolerance not murder and intimidation. They are far closer to the truth than islam. The upanishads of the hindus are very intellectual and humane. They are not blind fanatics as islam urges its followers to be. That is why they are more prosperous than backward islamic societies. To pass judgement on them you have to read their scriptures. But that is something you have not done. Try reading Deepak Chopra. Islams fanatics have a closed mind and only read the quran and that too blindly. The quran is a book full of contradictions. THere is no logical consistency to that book. Some verses ask the followers to show mercy, others to murder and rape. Scientifically there are so many contradictions reagrding mankinds origins, the shape of the earth etc. it is laughable. All this would have not been so harmful if not for the fact that those who criticise are intimidated, persecuted, tortured and killed. This is evil. No doubt in my mind.


Name: Hari Padmanabhan
Date: Sunday June 08, 2008
Time: 12:04:36 -0700

Islam is a VILE FILTHY FIENDISHLY EVIL doctrine. The Quran has verses calling for the murder and rape of non-Muslims. THIS IS A FACT. PLEASE READ THE QURAN. Destroy islam, BURN the quran and slaughter each and every Muhammadan Muslim on the face of this Earth.


Date: Tuesday June 10, 2008
Time: 04:00:03 -0700



Name: please avoid these filthy bastards.
Date: Tuesday June 10, 2008
Time: 12:42:39 -0700



Date: Monday June 16, 2008
Time: 02:09:58 -0700

Gandhi wanted a united India but noooo these Muslims must have their own country. The formation of Pakistan and Bangladesh caused suffering to millions, but sixty years on Pakistan and Bangladesh are hopeless backward countries and India is an emerging world power. Aren't they glad they got rid of all those Muslims.


Name: wondering
Date: Tuesday June 17, 2008
Time: 08:51:44 -0700

Muslims in bangladesh is the Lowest categories of Islam. They are most violent. The carved out Bnagladesh from India as Islamic country. But They are now migrating to India. They are all converts from low caste Hindus.. They should re- convert themself to their original faith. If they wanted to stick to Islam, they should only parctice Arabian culture and should speak Arabic ...not Bengali. Banagladeshi Muslim ..Most wonderful specis in they earth..Left the hindu faith but coudn't left Bengali tounge. !!!!. This may heart many ... this is reality..


Date: Thursday July 03, 2008
Time: 11:43:33 -0700



Systematic Persecution of Religious Minorities in Bangladesh

Dr Samir sarkar
July 26, 2008
Systematic Persecution of Religious Minorities in Bangladesh

The Islamic siege of India

By Dr Gautam Sen

obtained via dated August 24, 2008

India now exhibits all the political and psychological symptoms of a defeated society. The unprecedented protests in Jammu have been greeted with surprise across the board precisely because they are exceptional. But the overall situation in India is dismaying.

The economic success of India in recent years and the resulting additional resources at the disposal of the Indian State are not relevant to the grievous outcome threatening it. These huge resources are actually being used for electoral bribery or stolen and to purchase arms that have little relevance for the prosecution of the deadly internal war.

India is undergoing outright warfare, with its cities bombed at will and massive infiltration across its borders. The Pakistani rationale for cutting India down to size has rarely faltered since 1947 and echoes a much older Islamic tradition. It stretches back a millennium and reasserted itself the moment British usurpers of Islamic rule were expelled by Hindus. Of course the Anglo-American imperialists and cold warriors actively incited this diabolical outcome because they assumed Islam would be an ally against Soviet communism and Nehru’s India would not. The Arabs in general and the Saudis in particular eventually become co-conspirators in the project to restore Islamic primacy in the Indian subcontinent even if Hindus were to continue ruling it nominally as vassals. They correctly perceive that the ability to control and deploy India’s economic and demographic assets will allow them to challenge the Christian West. The Saudis are the main source of the catalytic funding for the jihad that is threatening to break India’s political will and evidently succeeding. The Chinese also became active after the mid-1950s in arming Pakistan and, more recently, encouraging its bombing campaign of Indian cities to curb the economic advance of India, which it regards as an irritating, lowly rival.

Within India, some mosques and madrasas are the fifth column that provides critical support for the aggression that it is encountering. Their role is to cultivate passive and active support for the Islamic onslaught. It entails ensuring that most Muslims refuse to co-operate in efforts to interdict Islamic terrorists by remaining silent spectators while the murderous bombings continue, provide safe havens in impenetrable Muslim areas for terrorists and a vital element of local manpower to the Pakistani and Saudi agencies engaged in terrorist activities. The deployment of Muslim votes strategically is also an important aspect of their overall goals in order to make it impossible for important Hindu families (rather than the nominal political organisations that they preside over) to survive politically without their consent. The economic sabotage of counterfeit currency produced by Pakistani government agencies is another aspect of the Islamic onslaught that has the virtue of making Indians themselves defray the cost of jihad.

Indian themselves are profoundly complicit in the project that seems destined to destroy their country and their civilisation. Two underlying factors that have facilitated the rapid expansion of the Islamic onslaught against India are its political culture and constitutional arrangements. The first is the product of the bumbling imbecility of the Gandhian project that de-legitimised the whole notion of self-defence, on which all societies are founded and to which the most important Hindu text is almost exclusively addressed. And it was Pandit Nehru whose arrogance and intellectual mediocrity accentuated and institutionalised this Gandhian self-destructiveness in India’s political culture and national psyche. India’s constitutional arrangements, again the product of the wilful ignorance of its leaders, created a parliamentary democracy after independence that guaranteed to highlight and deepen every division among its citizens. In a presidential system, by contrast, Indians would have been compelled to begin overcoming their multiple identities and the potential divisions they incubated because the constituency for president would have been a national one.

India now exhibits all the political and psychological symptoms of a defeated society. The unprecedented protests in Jammu have been greeted with surprise across the board precisely because they are exceptional. But the overall situation in India is dismaying, with virtually its entire political class overawed by the intimidatory truculence of Islam, anxious not to provoke even if it entails conceding the most fundamental norms of Indian society. The ascendant media, harbouring crude Western aspirations and their concomitant political interests, and elite higher education institutions dominated by Christians are gleefully nurturing a deracinated Indian establishment. Their purpose is to exercise influence over India by completely dominating its intellectual life and of course continue saving souls in the way it has done successfully by Christianising South Korea. The Islamic onslaught against India provides them with a window of opportunity, by keeping India off balance and preventing the emergence of a self-confident indigenous elite that might resist its imperialist designs. This is why Islam and Christianity co-operate cynically over what is becoming the spoils of a broken-backed India, postponing their own competition with each other until they have destroyed all traces of the civilisation of the Hindus first.

The economic success of India in recent years and the resulting additional resources at the disposal of the Indian State are not relevant to the grievous outcome threatening it. These huge resources are actually being used for electoral bribery or stolen and to purchase arms that have little relevance for the prosecution of the deadly internal war against Islamic and other forms of terror. Some of the terrorists have clearly formed a seamless political alliance among themselves, with the Naxalites publicly declaring support for Pakistani terrorists and no doubt benefiting from Pakistani largesse. It may also be hazarded that many individuals, media outlets and alleged human rights organisations are mere fronts for terrorists and the evidence is in the public realm in some important instances. The armaments being purchased with uncharacteristic purposiveness by the entire political class has some bearing on potential external threats to Indian security, but one suspects that the alacrity with which they are undertaken has much to do with spin-offs that result from bribes. But most relevant of all is the failure of India’s politicians to engage with conviction against internal terror by deploying appropriate resources and motivating trained personnel instead of hobbling them in the performance of their duties because of apprehensions about losing Muslim votes.

The end is not necessarily going to take the shape of an invasion by the rapist Pakistan army across the Punjab towards Delhi. In fact, India’s demise and the retreat of Hindus will express itself as an accentuation of trends and processes already underway, with occasional dramatic departures that underline the calamity unfolding. The expulsion of the Pandits, which failed to truly exercise even India’s official nationalists, is a harbinger of the shape of things to come. Hindus are likely to face expulsion from areas dominated by Islam though some of it will occur and is occurring in a huge swathe of eastern India because Hindus are voluntarily abandoning Muslim areas for fear of consequences if riots occur. These areas then come under implicit Pakistani rule under the guise of the autonomy of Sharia practices and constitute bases for militant activity against adjacent areas outside the immediate control of Islam. As the political balance changes in favour of Islam, the Indian political class will behave even more supinely, in a pattern that has already become well established, further sealing the fate of India. And with each success Islam will demand more, as it has increasingly begun to do dramatically in less than four years.

The first major Indian city likely to come under the total sway of Islam is Kolkata since its demographics are changing rapidly, with whole areas being abandoned by Hindus and becoming ‘no-go’ Muslim areas. Bangladesh, which is contemptuous of Hindu India as a pushover denies the very notion of infiltration because its Muslims never accepted the legitimacy of the partition settlement. They believe that the Assam, West Bengal that Jinnah originally demanded, should and will belong to the Islamic Republic of Bangladesh. On this India’s communists apparently concur with them! And if Bangladesh is able to frighten Hindu India there is little hope for it in the face of enhanced joint Saudi-Pak subversion that evidence of each Indian retreat is already encouraging. Each terrorist bombing illustrates the helplessness of India and the ease with which Hindus can be overawed by a handful of determined mass murderers.

(The writer taught at the London School of Economics & Political Science for over two decades. He is the co-author of Analyzing the Global Political Economy, Princeton University Press, 2008.)

Hindus in West Bengal under attack by Muslim goondas

By Ranjit Roy

Obtained via dated August 24, 2008

Hindus in West Bengal are now under attack from Muslim fundamentalists, who are mostly Bangladeshi infiltrators, with an active support from the ruling CPM. The communists in the state are desperate to woo Muslims after their humiliating defeat in the recent Panchayat and civic body elections. The communists believe that the state government’s agricultural land grab policy for industry has alienated rural Muslims from the party and is responsible for poll debacles. The party and its government are now liberally distributing favours to Muslims in the state such as setting up of Muslim religious university, named Alia University, in Kolkata’s Muslim populated area Park Circus. The Chief Minister, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee has offered government financial assistance only to Muslim students seeking higher education. Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamul Congress is not lagging behind in Muslim appeasements. She has announced that village Panchayats and Panchyat Samities won by her party in South 24 Parganas district will be run by local Muslims only.

Emboldened by the appeasement policy of the ruling party as well as the main Opposition party in the state, a section of Muslim fundamentalist outfits is gearing up for unprecedented attacks on Hindus in South Bengal districts. The first major attack was reported in Gangasagar, the holy confluence of the river Ganga and Bay of Bengal on June 12 this year. About 200 Hindu pilgrims were assembled there for a holy dip at the confluence and listened to discourses on Hindu religious texts by leaders of Hindu Samhati Manch. The peaceful Hindu assembly was attacked by a frenzied 3000-strong Muslim mob led by a local CPM leader Sheikh Ismail. Like infamous Godhra train burning incident in Gujarat, the heavily armed Muslim goons set fire to bamboo pavilion erected for the pilgrims assembled in the evening to listen to religious discourses. The goons also set fire to Vishwa Hindu Parishad’s guest house where some pilgrims had taken shelter. The VHP guest house was badly damaged due to fire and ransacking. Strangely, the police remained onlookers during the murderous attack on Hindu pilgrims and later arrested only the leaders of Hindu Samhati Manch and a few injured pilgrims. It is really a shame for Bengal’s media that suppressed the incident to appease the ruling CPM and its Muslim stooges. It was only the Bengali weekly Swastika that came out with detail reports and pictures. The West Bengal unit of VHP had also organised demonstration in protest. It may not be known to many outside West Bengal that the sacred Gangasagar Island is now dominated by Muslim majority population migrated from Bangladesh illegally thanks to the CPM’s policy of Muslim appeasement only to get their votes.

The second major attack on Hindus was reported on July 8 when Swami Punyalokananda, a monk of Ramakrishna Order and president of Ramakrishna Ashram at Gorehat under Joynagar police station in South 24 Parganas was stripped and beaten up by CPM goons. Revered Swamiji is a Hindu social reformer who was initiated in sannyas by Swami Gambhirananda Maharaj, the 11th president of Ramakrishna Math and Mission, Belur, Howrah. Swami Punnyalokananda is devoted for the upliftment of the poor and underprivileged people at Gorehat since he has taken over as the head of the Ashram. Swamiji was trying hard to start a free coaching centre for the primary school boys and homeopathic dispensary in the Ashram campus. But Mohammed Abdur Ali, a local CPM leader and his associates have planned to set up a country liquor shop in the Ashram campus capturing the Ashram room for coaching students and the dispensary just by flexing their muscle power.

The local Muslim goons, led by the CPM leader Abdur Ali, attacked Swamiji with iron rods and lathis and tied him with a tree before stripping him off his saffron robes and beat him mercilessly till he became senseless. This ghastly scene was witnessed by hundreds of local people as the attack was made by the Muslim goons in the morning. But none came forward to save Swamiji fearing reprisal from the local Muslim goons sheltered by the CPM bosses. The police came to the spot only after the Muslim fanatics had satisfied themselves by blood-shed of a peaceful Hindu monk. Strangely, again, the police did not arrest a single culprit so far except registering a general diary (No. 168/08) about the attack on Swamiji at the Joynagar police station. Swamiji had many injuries in his body including scull. Some devotees of Swamiji took him to Kolkata’s SSKM government hospital for C.T Scan of brain and necessary treatment. Swamiji is now out of danger. Swamiji had earlier met the District Magistrate and the District Superintendent of Police apprehending murderous attacks on him and on the Ashram and requested them in writing for protection. But they did not take steps to protect the Hindu monk mainly due to fearing backlash of the Muslim fundamentalist groups and red eyes of the ruling communists.

The two successive barbaric incidents and complete police inaction led to a panic among peace-loving Hindus all over West Bengal. The incidents have clearly showed that the CPM has adopted a tactic of torture against Hindus only to win the hearts of the Muslims to regain their support in the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections slated for early next year.

(A Kolkata VSK report)

Sunday, August 17, 2008

Blasts probe reveals split within Indian society

India: "There is an inter-state network functioning capable of motivating 20-25-year boys to turn against the nation. The worst fears have come true."

from Jihad Watch

A useful summary of the state of affairs in India: "Blasts probe reveals split within Indian society," by Sheela Bhatt for Rediff, August 16:

One does not need to be a political scientist to understand the seriousness of the details of the Ahmedabad serial blasts case that Gujarat Director General of Police P C Pande, Police Commissioner (Baroda) Rakesh Asthana and Anti-Terrorist Squad head Ashish Bhatia were giving to media persons on Saturday.

The case has been solved and details that are emerging are not just worrying but show the spilt within the Indian society. Within the jungles of Kerala [Images] and Gujarat, training camps are organised where training to plant bombs is being imparted to young Indian Muslims.
There is an inter-state network functioning capable of motivating 20-25-year boys to turn against the nation. The worst fears have come true.

Investigations into the serial blasts have revealed that the terrorists are all Indians and most of them are below 30. None of the arrested youth is a victim of communal riots of 2002.

Mufti Abu Bashir and an employee of Information Technology firm WIPRO, who are absconding, masterminded the blasts. Bashir was arrested in Lucknow on Saturday.

Echoes of Maher Hawash.

So far, nine people have been arrested in Gujarat. Some of them have taken training in handling arms in jungles near Ernakulam, Kerala. All of them have some connection to the Students Islamic Movement of India. Some may even have connection to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba, DGP Pande said.

The network of people, who are planting bombs and taking innocent lives with such regularity and ease within India, is not just restricted to few states. The arms training camp, which took place in Kerala in December 2007, had Muslim youth from Gujarat, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Jharkhand and Kerala.

Besides the use of weapons, they were also taught how to escape on motor cycle, how to use human rights institutions if and when they are arrested and how to face police investigations.
All of them were given fake names so that even if they get arrested, police could not trace their accomplices.

SIMI chief Safdar Nagori, who was arrested in March 2008, gave lectures to provoke the youth in the Kerala camp.

Pande told media persons that SIMI has been divided into two. It also has no doubt that the Indian Mujahideen is the new identity of SIMI. The hardliner section led by Nagori was instrumental in planning and executing the blasts. After Nagori's arrest, Mufti and an employee of WIPRO, whose identity police has withheld, came to Ahmedabad and addressed a training camp in hills of Pawagadh near Halol. The WIPRO employee is absconding. [...]
Police has also been able to establish the entire chain of events. The bombs were made in Baroda; Iqbal and Sajid were executors of bomb-making plans.

Police has found out how the explosives came from Madhya Pradesh [Images], how two training camps were organized, how Nagori and Mufti Bashir gave anti-India lectures and spread venom in Muslim youth.

As is so often the case, there is one missing link in this analysis: The role of Islamic texts, teachings, and the example of Muhammad himself in creating a receptive audience for that sort of "venom."

Posted by Marisol at August 17, 2008 11:29 AM
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Friday, August 8, 2008

Oppression of Jamu's Hindus by Kashmir Moslems

Jammu’s Hindu intifada: Jammu’s Hindus will no longer tolerate oppression by Kashmir’s Muslims

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One Mohammedan's Rape of India from "How 'Gandhara' became 'Kandahar'"

“In the year 997 a Turkish chieftain by the name of Mahmud became sultan of the little state of Ghazni, in eastern Afghanistan. Mahmud knew that his throne was young and poor, and saw that India, across the border, was old and rich; the conclusion was obvious. Pretending a holy zeal for destroying Hindu idolatry across the frontier with a force inspired by a pious aspiration for booty. He met the unprepared Hindus at Bhimnagar, slaughtered them, pillaged their cities, destroyed their temples, and carried away the accumulated treasures of centuries. Returning to Ghazni he astonished the ambassadors of foreign powers by displaying “jewels and un-bored pearls and rubies shinning like sparks, or like wine congealed with ice, and emeralds like fresh sprigs of myrtle, and diamonds in size and weight like pomegranates.””

“Each winter Mahmud descended into India, filled his treasure chest with spoils, and amused his men with full freedom to pillage and kill; each spring he returned to his capital richer than before. At Mathura (on the Jumna) he took from the temple its statues of gold encrusted with precious stones, and emptied it coffers of a vast quantity of gold, silver and jewelry; he expressed his admiration for the architecture of the great shrine, judged that its duplication would cost one hundred million dinars and the labor of two hundred years, and then ordered it to be soaked with naptha and burnt to the ground. Six years later he sacked another opulent city of northern India, Somnath, killed all its fifty thousand inhabitants, and dragged its wealth to Ghazni. In the end he became, perhaps, the richest king that history has ever known.”

“Sometimes he spared the population of the ravaged cities, and took them home to be sold as slaves; but so great was the number of such captives that after some years no one could be found to offer more than a few schillings for a slave. Before every important engagement Mahmud knelt in prayer, and asked the blessing of God [Allah. lw] upon his arms. He reigned for a third of a century; and when he died, full of years and honors, Moslem historians ranked him greatest monarch of his time, and one of the greatest sovereigns of any age.”

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Friday, August 1, 2008

Strong local Indian Muslim terror outfits send alarm bells ringing

Strong local Indian Muslim terror outfits send alarm bells ringing
Earlier, the intelligence intercepts of wireless communication between attackers and their masterminds across the border were relied upon to identify the perpetrators. Of late, however, the agencies’ communication trail has dried up ...

Islamic Terrorism in India 4:05 AM MDT

NEW DELHI: The emerging local terror trail in the Bangalore blasts, and now, in the far deadlier Ahmedabad blasts, has left the security agencies a worried lot. So much so, the Union home ministry officials on Saturday, hours before the 16 explosions rocked the Gujarat capital, spoke to the police chiefs of the states where home-grown outfits like Simi have a well-entrenched network — Madhya Pradesh, UP, Kerala, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Rajasthan and Karnataka — asking them to mount vigil and track the modules operating in their territory.

The local ramifications of the recent terror attacks are also borne out by the complete radio silence witnessed both ahead of and soon after the attack. According to top intelligence sources, this has been the case for nearly a couple of years now. Earlier, the intelligence intercepts of wireless communication between attackers and their masterminds across the border were relied upon to identify the perpetrators. Of late, however, the agencies’ communication trail has dried up completely. . . .

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